No Agenda Episode 380, "Trusted Beduoin Sources" (2012-02-05)

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John C. Dvorak:
What are you doing with Arabic on your machines?
Jingle:
Adam Curry. John C Dvorak
Adam Curry:
It's sunday February 5th 2012, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 380
Jingle:
This is No Agenda
Adam Curry:
Living in the margin of error here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Texas, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry
John C. Dvorak:
and from northern silicon valley where the motto is I tweet therefore I am, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Jingle:
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning
Adam Curry:
Correct-o-mundo.
There's an article I read the other day about that.
Actually I tweeted it, just to make it even worse.
It's called like the Facebook Psychology, that this whole 'liking' business, when people like or retweet it's giving them feeling that they've actually done something.
So we're becoming a nation of likers and retweeters instead of doers.
So someone says, "hey man, I just went out for a great run" and you: "Oh, like it, yes, now I feel like I did the run."
John C. Dvorak:
Does anyone pay attention to likes, I've asked this before and nobody can say, "yeah." Does anyone pay attention to the 'like,' like 'Liked' by you know, number
Adam Curry:
I don't, I don't. It broke the other day, did you read about that?
John C. Dvorak:
No, Gosh! What happened?
Adam Curry:
Facebook pushed out some code on friday, which is never a good idea, I've learned.
John C. Dvorak:
Not before an IPO
Adam Curry:
*laughs*
Adam Curry:
And the, like the JavaScript API broke so all these millions of sites that have like buttons didnt work. But worse! There's so many sites now where if you want to join the site you can make the registration through your facebook login, that broke too.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, good!
Adam Curry:
So it's like, hello, can you see the peril looming? Do you understand this is not really a good idea? No...
Adam Curry:
I went through that whole facebook filing, by the way. It's all bull crap what everyone's saying.
John C. Dvorak:
What are they saying? I haven't paid much attention.
Adam Curry:
Oh, everyone's saying, 'OH, they made three billion dollars in revenue!' Well, let's look at it. Only 56% of that is actual revenue, of which 12% comes from their 30% from their Zynga vig. Over a billion of that revenue is from sale of stock.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh really?!
Adam Curry:
And then all their ..
John C. Dvorak:
so in other words that's backdoor sales of stock?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, exactly. Then you have their infrastructure, they lease that. They lease their bandwidth and their servers and they state, right in the S1, that's off-book transaction.
John C. Dvorak:
So there's no assets there.
Adam Curry:
We don't actually know how much they're spending on infrastructure, because it's not on the balance sheet. 600 million, but they have revolving lines of credit continuously so they're paying off lines of credit, not the actual cost of infrastructure.
John C. Dvorak:
huh.
Adam Curry:
Then you read everyone, 'Oh, they did three million in advertising!' No they don't! Three billion.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, three billion.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
So that's what everyone says.
Adam Curry:
And then there's this thing called RSU's. You know what this is?
John C. Dvorak:
No. What?
Adam Curry:
It's a form of option, and throughout the whole document.
John C. Dvorak:
RSU?
Adam Curry:
They state that they don't know how many billions of dollars the actual tax hit will be to the company, but it could impact them severely.
Adam Curry:
So they don't even know what their tax ..
John C. Dvorak:
A 'Restricted Stock Unit.'
Adam Curry:
There you go. But,
John C. Dvorak:
It's a form of equity compensation.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
So it's used as a pay; instead of paying somebody money, you give them an RSU.
Adam Curry:
Yeah which is typically given to market-makers. RSUs and warrants.
Adam Curry:
You know, a market-maker, someone who will then start trading the stock and then employed through warrants and RSUs as public relations people and consultants. [laughs] It's such a scam. And by the way, I've lived through this scam, I ran a public company, so I know what it is; I know how the scams work. I should be in jail right now.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs] Well, for other reasons too.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] For more reason than one!
John C. Dvorak:
But, huh.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Gee, why am I not stunned by this information?
Adam Curry:
What, that everyone's reporting all this bogus information, and all you had to do was read the S1 to actually see it? That information?
John C. Dvorak:
Well I think once the red herring comes out; I don't think it's out yet. I think then that this will be re-evaluated.
Adam Curry:
No, no way. Bullcrap.
John C. Dvorak:
You think everyone's got the hook and they're reeling them in, and that's the end of it? No one's going to read the red herring?
Adam Curry:
Correct. You know, last night..
John C. Dvorak:
You are cynical.
Adam Curry:
Well, I'm very cynical, and I'll give you a great example. In the morning, by the way, John, how are you?
John C. Dvorak:
In the morning to you Adam Curry, and in the morning to all ships at sea uh, boots on the ground, and feet in the air.
Adam Curry:
In the moonbases. And of course all the human resources. Hey citizens there in the chatroom at noagendastream.com,
Jingle:
Hey Citizen!
Adam Curry:
noagendachat.net, nice to have you all here. Let me see if we have a quorum real quickly, we have, ooh nice, 728 people logged onto the stream.
John C. Dvorak:
728 people that probably aren't listening to the show, and they have done us no good as a chatroom normally would.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, by the way,
John C. Dvorak:
Blew it up last week.
Adam Curry:
And by the way, you screwed up, man, you really screwed up.
John C. Dvorak:
I made a mistake and I got suckered into believing the ad was not anything more than a parody that I talked about, and the chatroom didn't stop me.
Adam Curry:
Well maybe I didn't see it.
John C. Dvorak:
Chatroom's supposed to; or you!
Adam Curry:
Well hold on a second, I was amazed too.
John C. Dvorak:
Get you once in awhile when you've got suckered by a hoax.
Adam Curry:
Of course, everyone gets suckered once in awhile. But for you, that was pretty bad.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, but it was funny. Still funny.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it was funny. So last night, I don't know if you saw this. Coming back to how the media, I mean, I'm convinced that the media is not necessarily evil, they're just completely stupid.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Big conclusion, right? Whooo!
John C. Dvorak:
Well, if you want to get off to a roaring start!
Adam Curry:
Let me rock it to you, so I'm watching Piers Morgan, very excited, because Ron Paul was on Piers Morgan yesterday.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh huh.
Adam Curry:
and, uh, here's how the show opens!
Clip:
[music] "Ron Paul is not going to be your next President!"
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Okay, I'm like, alright, this is awesome. This is going to be a great show, he is not going to be your next president!
Clip:
[music] "So why are millions of young people hanging on every word from the 76 year-old Texas congressman?"
Adam Curry:
The old kook! Why are they listening to the old kook? It was actually a very, very good interview, it's too bad no one watches this stuff. I'm going to play two passages,
because Ron Paul lays out some things that we have spoken about so explicitly for so many years, and you can just see that Piers Morgan, he, it does not penetrate that watermelon on his shoulders. He just does not understand what is being said.
And, the first thing is about the unemployment numbers. Now, going back to when I was in London, John, when you explained to me the first time how these unemployment numbers are basically cooked,
and what they don't do it basically count the people who have fallen off the radar, and have become bums, essentially. And, that's how you can manipulate these numbers. I mean, this is literally four [4], or five [5] years we have been talking about this, correct?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, and then, then the numbers if there's two [2], there's three [3] numbers, you can deal with, there's the one they keep telling us about.
Then there's the U-6 that is and old calculation, which is closer to the truth, which is around fifteen and-a-half percent [15.5%]. And there's the true! unemployment, which is including the bums, and everybody in between
that a company out of San Francisco called, Shadow Stats generates. And that number is closer to twenty-five percent [25%].
Adam Curry:
So, Ron Paul explains to Piers Morgan why these numbers are bogus. And you can just hear him pre-programmed robot that he is, just not understanding what is actually be-
John C. Dvorak:
[a background noise]
Are you okay? Did you just fart?
John C. Dvorak:
[away from the mic] No, I just blew my nose. In a direction away from the microphone.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
I could do it again, a little closer.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, good. Do it closer.
John C. Dvorak:
[blows nose]
Adam Curry:
Nice. Yeah. Here, let me try it.
SFX:
Buzzer.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm congested.
Adam Curry:
There we go. That's better.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Yet today, we saw jobless figures with are the best since he became President. Do you give him credit for that? To you think he's doing a good job? In reducing the job, jobless figures, or - how would you - summerize your feelings?
Clip (Ron Paul):
I wouldn't give him too much credit, of course, everybody should be pleased that there are more jobs now, than there were a month ago. But, they're pretty puny to what we should be doing. But, if you look at those figures and dissect them out, they're not all that glamorous,
because during that last month one point two million [1,200,000] people dropped out of the work force, so if you get two hundred, thousand [200,000] new jobs and one point two [1.2] dropped out, you still a million [1,000,000] jobs. So, if you take that into consideration, you can't turn these people into non-people, you can fudge-
Adam Curry:
I love that. "You can't just turn people into non-people," you can't just do that. Well. apparently, you can.
Clip (Ron Paul):
the numbers, and that's what politicians do.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
I understand that-
crp Let me, let me just-
Adam Curry:
I understand! I understand! But I'm! But I'm! I'm! But I'm not going to listen to ya!
Clip (Ron Paul):
finsh that. If you do that, actually the unemployment rate is eleven percent [11%], not eight point five [8.5%]. It went up, rather than gone down if you count the people.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Is there a problem here, then? If all the Republicans keep dumping on, what are apparently good figures, then the
John C. Dvorak:
HA!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
Apparently, he- he already didn't hear it! A- 'Apparently good figures, but uh the Republicans are dumping!'
Clip (Piers Morgan):
mental positivity that America needs to get itself out of recession, get stymied a bit. Now, I'm going to read you a quote here that I think was quite interesting-
Clip (Ron Paul):
Can, can I just answer this-
Adam Curry:
See- he- you know, he, he, he, he's not listening. He is not- it's like that thing on his, he is, he has poop in his head!
Clip (Piers Morgan):
This quote is from Jeb Hensarling, he a Republican representative. He said, "Today is an indication of another failure of this President's policies. Thirty-six percent [36%] of his eight percent [8%] plus unemployment, which is ludicrous of way of spinning. How can you say
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Clip (Piers Morgan):
that this is another example of President getting thing wrong?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Well, the-
Clip (Piers Morgan):
On a day where actually the official figures, any way you dress them up,
Adam Curry:
"Anyway you dress them up?!"
He doesn't even understand what he is saying himself.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
are positive. Isn't it better
Adam Curry:
It's NOT positive. Ron Paul's going to try it one more time:
Clip (Piers Morgan):
I suppose the more creditable position for a Re
publican debate, I am encouraged by this, but he should have gone further.
Clip (Ron Paul):
To me, it is more important to admit the truth. So, if I'm speaking the truth, so we might have to compare figures on, but let's assume for a second that I'm speaking the truth
Adam Curry:
Now that would be crazy
Clip (Ron Paul):
and the two hundred thousand [200,000} new jobs was a net benefit.
Clip (Ron Paul):
But, what I'm saying is, we quit counting people, we disavow them. So, if I'm speaking the truth, the most important thing is we know the truth. Not, not- you'll probably. As a matter of fact, uh, you'll probably have me a hard time, you probably haven't heard me in a speech. I do talk about the President a little bit. Mainly on attack on civil liberties and maybe not doing enough about the wars.
Adam Curry:
Now check this out
Clip (Ron Paul):
So, I'm not in that same people that say 'well, the President didn't do enough. It's all the President's fault.' Because it isn't.
Adam Curry:
So, uh, but Piers Morgan clearly just, it's amazing to me, how the guy is literally saying the numbers are cooked, but Piers Morgan spits it back and says even if the numbers are cooked, they're still positive.
John C. Dvorak:
Naw, he's uh, such a bad interviewer and obviously so uh, bigoted. That I don't see how anyone watches that show. I mean, you can watch it once in a while, you get somebody. He just seems brain-dead. I don't see him connecting with the guests, hardly ever.
John C. Dvorak:
Once in a while someone will come on he seems to have some rapport with. But, generally speaking he's just disassociated. It's very difficult to get an audience to like that
Adam Curry:
Hey, hey there's the uh,
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, how about that.
Adam Curry:
There's the nine eighteen [9:18] right on time
John C. Dvorak:
Yep, there it goes.
Adam Curry:
Burlington Northern. They giving you a toot. Like hey, hey you guys, you guys are wasting your-
John C. Dvorak:
It's one of those high speed rails. It's actually a passenger train and it looks like it's doing about twenty [20] miles an hour
Adam Curry:
But he's tooting his horn just to remind us that we're wasting our time.
John C. Dvorak:
There was a dog on the tracks.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] So then, very interesting, Ron Paul brought up the --another thing we've talked about so many times --the lie that is being propagated by everyone - in government worldwide now, particularly as it pertains to Iran, uh, about Ahmedinajhad apparently saying he wants to "Wipe Israel from the face of the map!" -- and we know that's not what he said,
but-thats-been-twisted-into-this-meme-which-of-course-its-mind-control-and-done-for-a-very-specific-reason:
which is obviously to go and kill some more brown people in the sand. And Ron Paul lays it out very clearly, but this exchange, [frustrated noise], I'll have to play a douchebag after it.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Assume you become President Ron Paul, if Iran was to strike back at Israel, what would you do?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Well, I'd go and look to the rules,
and the rules are that if our national security is threatened, you explain it to the people and then you go to the congress and say, "Is out national security threatened to such a degree that we declare war against a particular country?"
Clip (Piers Morgan):
If you believe that Iran had enough enriched uranium to genuinely launch a nuclear attack against Israel, would that knowledge alone mean that you would countenance military action.
Clip (Ron Paul):
The one thing that we should set aside is that is that our CIA and the Mossad, eh,
Clip (Ron Paul):
Israel are not arguing that they have the case --even Israel said, even the leader of the Mossad says that even if they had a weapon, it's not an existential threat to them.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
So you wouldn't ever countenance any pre-emptive strike.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Not really, and why should we? That's aggression.
Adam Curry:
You should have seen Ron Pauls's face when he said "That's agression, what kind of douche bag Brit are you? We don't just go and kill people, that's not the way we operate here"
Clip (Ron Paul):
We're not supposed to commit aggression, I mean that's left for the dictators.
Clip (Ron Paul):
But uh, you know, we now don't do aggression, but what we do is pre-emptive war.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
But if you had got knowledge-
Clip (Ron Paul):
[continues] but pre-emptive war is equivalent to
Adam Curry:
Now listen to Morgan try and work his way into a logical conclusion to go and kill these people.
Clip (Ron Paul):
[continues] that and I think it's very dangerous.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
but they have already said, Ahmadinejad has made it quite clear he believes in wiping out Israel if he got the chance.
Clip (Ron Paul):
No, no --ok
Clip (Piers Morgan):
If you were president in the Second World War, and you've been given knowledge the Japanese were planning Pearl Harbor, you'd have pre-emptively struck, wouldn't you?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Well, let me touch your first subject first, and that is quoting Ahmadinejad and that is a misquote, but 99% of the people in the media would misquote it and everyone in Washington believes it.
What he actually aid on the proper interpretation was that the regime in charge of Jerusalem should be removed from the pages of time. He did not say that Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth. Just think of the difference in that, removing a regime, like getting rid of our administration or something!
Adam Curry:
Now how do we respond to that as a true journalist? Should we delve into it or just ignore it? What do you think? I think we should ignore it.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
You're not seriously defending Ahmadinejad, are you?
Adam Curry:
No, let's in fact attack the guy. "You're not defending him, are you?"
Clip (Ron Paul):
I'm trying to defend honesty, and I'm trying to defend openness and I'm willing to stop a war just as --
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Do you see him as a threat?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Please let me finish my sentence. Just like John Kennedy was able to talk to Khrushchev.
Clip (Ron Paul):
If we can talk to Khrushchev and he had thirty thousand (30,000) missiles, why can't we talk to a country that doesn't have a nuclear missile and they're not - according to the record - they're not on the verge of it either.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
The reason I'm pushing on this is a lot of Americans who, you know, may like, they may like you personally or whatever, but they think you're weak on this because of the pre-emptive issue, and I come back to that question I put to you: If you had knowledge and you were President when Pearl Harbor happened - if you had pre-knowledge of that happening - would you have attacked Japan?
Clip (Ron Paul):
Yeah, an imminent attack. If we're sitting there and we're seeing the planes come over, obviously yes, an imminent attack.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Well I mean, intelligence, intelligence, said it may happen.
Clip (Ron Paul):
An imminent attack is quite different when the planes are coming versus this, uh, fiction. Just, we shouldn't have such short memories.
Adam Curry:
Now, he's going to wrap it up in thirty (30) seconds, but he's going to do it beautifully. But, he's making a very important point here which you, by the way, should use at your cocktail parties.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Everything they're saying about Iran we said about Iraq and they're all lies. And how many men died? Eighty five hundred (8,500) Americans died, fourty four thousand (44,000) combatants.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
No, I completely agree with you about Iraq.
Clip (Ron Paul):
have come back crippled, so, this is the same principles.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
I, as a newspaper editor --
Clip (Ron Paul):
It's the same principles.
Adam Curry:
"I, as a newspaper editor. Yes, I, I was against the war in Iran, I was!"
Clip (Piers Morgan):
As the newspaper editor back in Britain, I opposed to the war in Iraq. Vote vigorously, and loudly for two [2] years.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Then you should oppose use going into Iran.
Clip (Piers Morgan):
I, I think you're Iran is a different situation.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Why?
Clip (Piers Morgan):
Because I think that they would if they could consider attacking Israel.
Clip (Ron Paul):
No, I-
Clip (Piers Morgan):
And if you were America, you can't let that happen. And the Israelis are looking to America.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Why don't they- why not-
Clip (Piers Morgan):
for the leadership of Obama.
Clip (Ron Paul):
Why shouldn't they depend on the British? Why doesn't the British take care of them?
Clip (Ron Paul):
They use to have- they have a lot of influence over there, let all the British kids go over there and die.
Adam Curry:
Yeah! Exactly! Send your own kids, Piers Morgan! Send your kids to go die!
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle]
Adam Curry:
I love that!
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle]
Adam Curry:
I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it.
So, instead of this guy becoming President, as we just heard, because CNN says he "won't be your next President." We're going to get this Romney douche bag, and his wife, fifteen [15] seconds of this made this made the throw up in my mouth!She comes out to announce her husband, Ann Romney,
and listen to what she says!
Clip (Ann Romney):
In Nevada [crowd cheers], and once again I'm here to, to um, make sure that you listen to be this time and obey and don't clap-
Jingle:
You will obey!
Adam Curry:
Obey me, slaves!
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckles] that's good.
Adam Curry:
Did you hear her say that?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
'I want you to obey me! As first lady, you will obey Ann Romney! Oh, I want you to obey me!'
[frustrated sigh] So, you can imagine uh, I need a bucket now in the studio, here at Camp Mofo. To puke in!
John C. Dvorak:
Where's the douche bag for Piers Morgan. That's what I waiting for.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
Jingle:
Douche bag!
John C. Dvorak:
There you go!
Adam Curry:
I feel much better. Much better! Bogh! My goodness.
John C. Dvorak:
So, I didn't have uh, I didn't pay much attention to any of this crap.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Well, I do it so you don't have to. So, you can do much more important things. Tell me-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I was- okay, you gotta play.
Adam Curry:
what was on Discovery. [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
I'll give you one my one clip.
Adam Curry:
Okay, what was on the Discovery Channel?
John C. Dvorak:
About this crappy media.
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
Although, I do have quite a bit today about crappy media.
Adam Curry:
Good, very good. That's what we do. Assassinate them.
John C. Dvorak:
Um,
Adam Curry:
Shoot them in the head.
Jingle:
Two shot to the head.
Adam Curry:
Stupid, crappy media.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, I actually clipped this entire thing. And then I decided, well, as I was listening to it. And I played a piece of it to J.C, I realized a piece of it was better then the whole thing.
Adam Curry:
"J.C." is code for Buzzkill Junior.
John C. Dvorak:
It's start of with Piers- No, this is, this uh, Erin Bernett.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
John C. Dvorak:
You have to- and it would be fun to play the whole thing, but it's about two and-a-half [2.5] minutes, she decides- she does these editorials. And, if you work on any of these shows-
Adam Curry:
Oh, is this the 'Seriously' thing?
John C. Dvorak:
the producers always want these hosts to do an editorials.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. To give 'em, to give 'em credibility-
John C. Dvorak:
"Can you do an editorial? Everyday?"
Adam Curry:
And! they don't have enough fake news to report on.
John C. Dvorak:
And so uh, most people who are smart, don't do them because they are really hard to do. And, generally speaking, you- they tend to, you know, they- you can't- a lot of people can't do them at all! And I think that Erin's one of them.
So, she came up- she found- they found the drone sign in New- in Brooklyn.
Adam Curry:
Oh!
John C. Dvorak:
Then she went into exposition about-
Adam Curry:
That out Knight did. Let's just say that our Knight did. Our Knight in New York did these drone signs.
John C. Dvorak:
So, we got a drone sign sitting there, and she goes on and on about the drone sign, and who- you know, where it came from, and what it means. And what- and she, you know, I'm talking two [2] minutes solid! Blah blah blah. And so she wraps it up with- with- with- what I have here as the clip. And then, when she gets to the final punch line, she blows it!
She spent two and-a-half [2.5] minutes to get to get to a lousy- a line that she blows! See if you can catch it:
Clip (Erin Burnett):
The drones were watching, and they helped catch a terrorist, or a murderer. Would we be okay with the drones then? Ten [10] years, after nine-eleven [2011-9-11], ten [10] years after The Patriot Act, we're still debating how much of our freedom are we actually willing to give up to maintain American freedom. Let us know what you think. You can always tweet me @ErinBurnett [Hash tag] #Outfront. Have a great weekend.
Adam Curry:
Mmm, no.
I didn't- It was just dumb. I don't understand- what did I- let me listen to it.
John C. Dvorak:
The line was supposed to be-
Adam Curry:
No, no no! Don't say, don't say. Let me listen again.
Clip (Erin Burnett):
But if the drones were watching, and they helped catch a terrorist, or a murderer. Would we be okay with the drones then? Ten [10] years, after nine-eleven [2011-9-11], ten [10] years after The Patriot Act, we're still debating how much of our freedom are we actually willing to give up to maintain American freedom. Let us know what you think. You can always tweet me @ErinBurnett
Adam Curry:
Oh.
Clip (Erin Burnett):
[Hash tag] #Outfront. Have a great weekend.
Adam Curry:
She was supposed to "American security" or something.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah!
Adam Curry:
She- it wasn't supposed to uh, "freedom." How was-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, "how much freedom are we going to give up to get more freedom?" I mean, this makes no sense! She- she-
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
She blew it!
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
It was supposed to be "American security"
Adam Curry:
[laughter] No beers at the corner pub for you Erin.
John C. Dvorak:
And what's weird about it, this- I'm telling you this was two and-a-half [2.5] minutes to lead up to this punch line. And he blows it! And then, she just stumbles off the stage, basically.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
It's like, "whatever."
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] 'Well, alright. It's weekend, who- no one's watching anyway. I don't know. I don't give a crap about this stupid show. Give me my check! I'm going to go eat- have a pizza.' Yeah these people are- it's too bad, because she's so cute.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, but does she seems- she- I don't know, maybe she's better in a conversation. Maybe she should have Piers- you know, I would rather watch her do Piers Morgan's job.
Adam Curry:
Well, she was on- she was good with-
John C. Dvorak:
She'd listen. She'd listen.
Adam Curry:
You know, she was always good with the dead- that fat, dead guy.
She was color. She was color commentary.
John C. Dvorak:
What fat, dead guy?
Adam Curry:
From uh, CNBC, she did the morning show. That's where she became famous.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, no, she did uh, one of the shows.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
I know, she used to do her show. But she was good interacting, she would talk to people, she would go back and forth.
Adam Curry:
Right.
John C. Dvorak:
She would be better in Piers Morgan's job. They should fire him and put her in there. She's prettier!
Adam Curry:
[scoff]
John C. Dvorak:
And uh, we could just sit there yacking with people there all day, and you know, maybe she won't- you know, she's obviously this- not- she is just not cut out for this.
Adam Curry:
While we're at it, while we're working on changing CNN, here at the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, we've got to limit John King's Coke intake.
John C. Dvorak:
He talks too fast and he, he seems to have something wrong with his, uh-
Adam Curry:
Nasal Passage-
John C. Dvorak:
He can't seem to breathe, he's not breathing through his nose anymore, as he talks real fast, I don't know what it could be?
Adam Curry:
And what comes out of that pie hole-
John C. Dvorak:
It could be too much coffee, by the way.
Adam Curry:
Hm, possible. Possible.
John C. Dvorak:
Anyway, so-
Adam Curry:
Well, we do have a lot of things to get to today, John.
In fact, I think I have made a rather interesting discovery regarding The LeRoy Fifteen. Actually, a number of discoveries, which I think I'd really like to kick the show off with after we thank some producers here. It seems our callout jostled the memory of many people that we actually don't have advertising on this program,
and live solely by the alms and the goodness of people who consider our programming valuable and therefore provide us with donations of value.
John C. Dvorak:
Right, and I hope we don't get into a feast-or-famine situation.
Adam Curry:
I think that's exactly what's going to happen. [laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
We had a lousy, the last three shows the donations were lousy. A few them when they were-
Adam Curry:
Last four, no not the-
John C. Dvorak:
Ok, the last four
Adam Curry:
No no, John, it's since January First (2012-01-01)
So that's like-
John C. Dvorak:
We had one good show in there. We sent a mailing out and we had that one good show.
So, we actually had one good donation segment. Since then, it's been nothing and we were at the point where we almost had no Executive Producers. We kept having these, you know, one guy.
So now, of course, we got a feast-and-famine thing since we did a real plea.
Adam Curry:
Mmm hmmm
John C. Dvorak:
And now we have SIX Executive Producers and ELEVEN Associate Executive Producers of the show.
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
Adam Curry:
Woot!
John C. Dvorak:
Three eighty (380).
Adam Curry:
Well that's good, we eat!
John C. Dvorak:
And we actually have two members of the three eighty (380) club, too!
Adam Curry:
Nice!
John C. Dvorak:
So let's thank all these folks for helping us and I'm going to concatenate som
e of these comments, even though not so much here.
We have Anonymous Bob from Australia, "his past insights from JCD and all the reading done by Adam Curry, may it continue. I still think your model is wrong, you should do a PAY PER EPISODE."
We had a lot of suggestions about getting more.
In fact, what we did on the last episode got us the most. That is what we should do more of, which is BEG!
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
One hour free to attract new listeners and then pay, no, we're not putting this sort of thing together.
Adam Curry:
We're not interested in doing that.
John C. Dvorak:
We talked about doing this on the show a million times. Not going to happen.
Adam Curry:
Maybe we should do another episode where we, uh just like a point five (.5) episode where we just talk about how it is we do what we do and why it is the only way it can work.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, we'll do another point five episode, I think it's a great idea!
Anyway, he gave- he does say that something worked because he's donating, and he donated eight-hundred and eight dollars and eighty-eight cents [808.88 USD].
Adam Curry:
Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
A lot of eights there, which is a good Asian number.
Adam Curry:
Very good.
John C. Dvorak:
Um, anyway then he has some more suggestions. Donations uh, his donations is part of some waging winnings, apparently he won uh, on a football game or something. "Which, I promised to donate if I came out ahead before starting out. Karma would be nice as I'm starting some big meetings in the next week and you can- if you can call on O.S.S. Karma, that would be nice."
Keep going, the year is uh, needed more than most. Go ahead.
Adam Curry:
Okay, here is some O.S.S Karma.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
Nice.
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Dwayne Melonson, on Tigard, Oregon. Uh, Whinnie the Pooh country, uh three hundred eight dollars and eighty-three cents. [303.83 USD]
Adam Curry:
Thank you.
John C. Dvorak:
And I MAY have an e-mail message, well I'll look it up and read it at the break. Sir Paul Snider in Edmonton, Alberta. three-eighty [380 USD]. "Please credit me, as Paul Snider. Put my on the birthday list for February 4th. Thanks for the show."
John C. Dvorak:
Paul Schneider, put me on the birthday list for February 4th. Thanks for the show.
Austin Voss, in Calgary, Alberta. We have a lot of Canadians today. Both from Alberta as a matter of fact. By the way, that's the richest province in Canada. They pay for everything.
John C. Dvorak:
Three hundred fifty [350] dollars.
Adam Curry:
Including this show [laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Thanks for the work on the show. They're helping us, they got nothing but money. And that's Calgary and Edmonton, those are two great towns, by the way. And Edmonton has got an underground thing you can go to, it's like an underground city like Montreal.
Adam Curry:
Hookers?
John C. Dvorak:
I've never seen a hooker there.
Adam Curry:
Oh
John C. Dvorak:
Thanks for the work on the show and hope and hopefully this donation helps minimizing Adam's whining. If I could get a hit of karma, I would appreciate it.
Adam Curry:
Sure.
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
Can I just say one thing here. I did not whine, I merely said if the value was going at the value we were getting then we'll have to go back to one show. That's a very simple equation, it's not whining. It's just being honest and forthright and saying here's the deal.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm with you
Adam Curry:
Ok
John C. Dvorak:
Scott Dawsonville in Georgia. Oh, I'm sorry, Scott in Dawsonville, Georgia. Three four five six seven [345.67 USD], nice number. "Please don't mention my list name." We didn't
"Donating drunk again-"
Adam Curry:
Yoo hoo!
John C. Dvorak:
"-I didn't stop listening after Friday afternoon happy hour, it cost me money. Donated two three four five six [234.56] last time. Three four five six seven [345.67]. Challenge to other donors: bump it up!"
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
"John, you need to try some of these north Georgia wines, they're damn good."
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Apparently
John C. Dvorak:
Muscadine wine, is that what you're talking about?
John C. Dvorak:
"Adam if you decide to dump Micky for Molly Wood, please let me know how to get in touch with Micky."
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Wait a minute. Hey. It was not an or/and/or, it was an and proposition.
John C. Dvorak:
And so, he says he has a VIP card from the Gold Club, in Atlanta, where apparently he was a software consultant which is
Adam Curry:
Wait a minute. Isn't that a strip bar? Isn't the Gold Club a-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
We need a, road trip
John C. Dvorak:
"Wrap up the Gold Club, software sold, too bad the place is a parking lot now. It's gone by the way."
Adam Curry:
Aw, oh, okay.
John C. Dvorak:
Long gone. "I missed the dot com bubble. I'll have to listen to The Dark Side Of The Moon, what's the status of my previous challenge?" We don't remember it. Uhhh, we'll have to look it up now. Robert Slagt, in Glendale, Arizona. Three three three [333]. Uh, Robert Slagt
Adam Curry:
Pronounced "slack"
John C. Dvorak:
S-l-a-g-t is pronounced "slack." So, everyone out there should note that. "I should be getting a good tax return this year."
By the way, we hope that people, some people are sending in some of their, part of their tax returns. "So, I will send some your way. Please give me some no-audit, here citizen, you have karma.|
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Hold on, let me try that.
John C. Dvorak:
"I love the show."
Jingle:
Hey, Citizen!
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Jingle:
Squirrel!
SFX:
Ding!
Jingle:
Hey, Citizen!
Adam Curry:
Don't audit him.
John C. Dvorak:
Okay. And those are our Executive Producers.
We got uh, Sam "Lung" in uh, "Loo-ang" , "Loong"
Adam Curry:
"Luang."
John C. Dvorak:
It'd be "Loo-ang," or "loong." Uh, Toronto, Ontario; two-five-six dot five two [256.52 USD]. Richard Rinehart, Belaire, Texas, two-fifty [250 USD]. He's "an ex-pat in Jakarta, and the show informs me on what's happening in our homeland. Keep up the good work." And he needs a shot of karma.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Brian Smith in Santa Clara, California down the road from me. Two-fourteen [214 USD]. "In the morning. Love the show. I'd love to give the show some money and k-"
He would like to give us some "karma for donations in the future. I would like to a special shout-out to my friend, and independent game developer, Hanford Lemoore. I would like to -
Jingle:
[start of karma jingle]
Adam Curry:
Ooh, sorry.
John C. Dvorak:
I would like to know what John thinks/knows anything from the Vietnam Vets, Agent Orange, and the links ti diabetes." I don't know anything. "Thank you, Adam and John for your hard work and great insights."
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Lawrence Roik, of course, in Burlington, Ontario [cuts out]
Adam Curry:
Whoa.
John C. Dvorak:
"We need to keep Adam out of the regular job market."
Adam Curry:
[chuckles] Yes!
Yes!
John C. Dvorak:
"Keep the best podcast in the universe going." We got Robert Burgess in Brisbane, uh, Queensland. Uh, two-fourteen [214 USD]. What's two-fourteen [214]? We've got two-fourteen [214], two-fourteen [214], two-fourteen [214].
Adam Curry:
Hmm.
John C. Dvorak:
"Hey, citizen, I love the show-"
Adam Curry:
No, two-fourteen [214]- Hey, hey, hey, hey! Two-fourteen [214], February 14th! Valentine's Day! Two-fourteen [214]!
John C. Dvorak:
Ah! [away from mic] two-fourteen [214].
Adam Curry:
That's the- nothing says loving, like donating to No Agenda. Nothing says, "I love you."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, at the rate two-fourteen [214].
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
"Hey, citizen."
Hey, citizen! "Love the show-"
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
John C. Dvorak:
"I was just the Executive producer in three-seven-five [Episode #375], and your take on the media is informative and funny. I- Can I get a "bush bag"?
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
I think he means "douche bag." "To Brendan fpr getting me hooked-"
Jingle:
Douche bag!
John C. Dvorak:
For "Brendan for getting me hooked on the show, and not donating, Brendan." Uh, "And can I get a " call-out, please."
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] Okay. This is getting complicated. Alright, let's see.
John C. Dvorak:
We can only do so much.
Adam Curry:
Well, I can try. I can try. Hold on a second. [chuckle]
Jingle:
Hey, citizen-Huntsman-karma.
Adam Curry:
That's getting, this is getting hard! It's like they're making me work for it.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that one doesn't work.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, Ken O'Rourke; Frostburg, Meryland. Two-twelve, twelve. [212.12 USD]. "I was going to donate this for the two-twelve [212], but I gave it now because donations have been slow so far this year." Which is true. "Please give a douche bag call-out to all you who can give, and DON'T!"
Jingle:
Douche bag!
John C. Dvorak:
Anonymous in Kew Gardens, New York. Two-twelve, twelve [212.12 USD] for the air.
"Hey citizens, please send me a karma shot for my wife who is starting a new semester in college and can use some karma." So, that's fine.
Jingle:
you've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
Another two-twelve [212 USD] from Wayne Harvey, also in Brisbane, we should hook these two guys up!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, they should go drinkin'.
John C. Dvorak:
"A donation coming from a former douche bag, currently just getting by in gitmo nation down under. Being a slave down under means I can't listen to the greatest podcast in the universe live." Really?
Adam Curry:
It's at a really weird time. It's like in the middle of the night.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, that's right 'cause every once in a while when we do it off-time the Australians listen. So, I just listened to NA three seven niner [379]. The drone strike you dropped about doing only one show a week, due to the douche bags like me not spreading the love. Maybe as sick as the crap acting our politicians dish out trying to impersonate your President, Andrew Shepard.
Adam Curry:
What? Who's Andrew Shepard?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know
Adam Curry:
Oh I know. That's the Douglas movie. The Michael Douglas movie we played on the last show.
John C. Dvorak:
Right. He listens "to the show, mostly when I'm driving, and I often have my five [5] year-old human resource with me and she loves the show."
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Good, good! We got another one.
John C. Dvorak:
During the news, turned to me and said, "Daddy, are we douche bags?"
Jingle:
douche bag
Adam Curry:
No!
John C. Dvorak:
"My human resource propagates the formula by singing dvorak.org jingle at school-"
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
"-and in the public. So I can't let her or the greatest podcast in the universe..I can't let her down, so the greatest podcast in the universe needs" ..ahh..he's got this sentence structure..
John C. Dvorak:
"I know it's asking for a lot for a first-time donor, but I also need milf for my smokin' hot woman. I'm emptying out my Paypal account [cuts out] very drunk, so your other douche bag supports, and the greatest podcast in the world, get off your ass and donate. He needs to be de-douched, he needs a milf and, uh, I think just a de-douche-" [cuts out]
Adam Curry:
Hey, you know, you're cuttin' out a lot. As in, I just lost 'ya. Hmm. I knew that was going to happen. Did I lose contact? No. Hellooo.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Let me see
SFX:
Skype sound
Adam Curry:
Internet connection problem. There's a problem with the Internet connection between you and..hold on while we try to get the call back.
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, I'm back, kinda. No?
Adam Curry:
Did you call me? Or did it just happen automatically?
John C. Dvorak:
No, I got this Internet connection problem, there's a problem with the Internet, or some crap.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I got that too, but now you're like low bitrate.
John C. Dvorak:
Low frequency
Adam Curry:
You're back, you're back, you're back. Oh, so
John C. Dvorak:
Did you get the part, he needs a...
Adam Curry:
Hold on, I'm going to do it here, I'm gonna do it
Jingle:
you've been de-douched
Jingle:
milf
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
Hell yeah! How tight was that?
John C. Dvorak:
There's a line there I could use, but I won't. Fishguy in Missoula, Montana. Two hundred and one dollars [201 USD]. "Fishguy, please no real names. I don;t want to get the blow-- I don't want to blow my security clearance. It's probably toast already, but it helps to make a good show.
Adam Curry:
Thank you. This is good. We've got sysadmins everywhere who have security clearance
Adam Curry:
and they're still propagating the formula. Appreciate it.
John C. Dvorak:
David C. Pugh, in North Canton, Ohio. Yeah, put a bumper sticker on the computer. Uh, two hundred dollars [201 USD]. "ITM, this should top off my knighthood. Sorry but I, but one show a week does not work for me. I'm going to need from all you douche bag boners to get off your wallet and donate. P.S. if you give the Patriots some karma..
Adam Curry:
No!
John C. Dvorak:
No. Not gonna happen. [stammers] Let me just say this, they don't need, I'm gonna bring this up.
I know Adam doesn't like football, but I'm going to mention his one time, and one time only: The confluence of fractals in football indicates that The Patriots can't lose the game.
Adam Curry:
Okay. Now, first of all, let me state that we are denying a hundred dollars [100 USD] extra, as he promised if we give The Patriots karma. But we don't do football karma, so we're not going to do that.
Second I would like to say, how dare you say I don't like football.
I heard you on TWiT saying, "Oh, have Adam on! He doesn't give a crap about football!" I watch one game a year. I watch the Super Bowl. I enjoy it immensely. I love it for the television values. And I would not give anything up to watch that.
And third, Giants are going to win.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] Here's the fractals: The fractals are simple. Besides, this would complete the undefeated season, which doesn't exist any more, but it's a karmic thing.
Uh, the fractals are as follows:
Uh, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning, are brothers. And they have followed the exact same career path. Peyton was won one Super Bowl, and lost one Super Bowl. Eli has won one Super Bowl and has yet to lose a Super Bowl. The fractal indicates he'll lose this game.
The second one is that uh, Tom Brady, who has his eyes on being a clone of, of uh, Joe Montana has won three Super Bowls! And to complete the fractal-
Adam Curry:
[fustrated groan] Wait a minute. Lemme do this!
Jingle:
Two shots to the head.
Adam Curry:
I'm going to shoot myself! I don't know what you're talking about.
John C. Dvorak:
That's why I'm saying, that's why you don't like football. But anyone who likes football know what I said, and that's why I said it.
Adam Curry:
I like watching a bunch of guys with tight pants running around a field. There's nothing wrong with that.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, the bi-curious thing. Alright, let's get our last donor out of the way.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] Wait, you missed one person, right?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I'm going to do him now. So anyway, that's why they don't need karma. This is a done deal.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
Fractal-wise. Joshua Paulson in Richfield, or should I say, "Sure-gall," in Richfield, Washington. Uh, s- he's in the chatroom as "Suregall."
Uh, two hundred dollars [200 USD] "Another note on the Panetta interview: you can't fire back at someone who has a gun to your head, because they have not fired. In other wards, "when threatened, escalate."
Adam Curry:
[Chuckle] Yeah. Well someone, see, unlike you would be uh, you could be better than Piers Morgan, because you actually listen to what he person is saying. Thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak:
What? [laughter]
Adam Curry:
Not you. So, this is highly appreciated. This will definitely keep us on our two show, our regimen. And that's the way it's got to go. I hope-
John C. Dvorak:
Wait. Hold on a second, you, like again, "feast-or-famine," you said you wanted to see what for February.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
We've got 2, 3 more shows. 4 more shows, I think.
Adam Curry:
But I'm being very encouraged and positive, if you don't mind.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I guess you can, if you want to be. I'm very encouraged. I would like to thank everyone who stepped up and uh, helped us out on this show, because it made it a difference. I'm telling you the numbers came in, they were really bad last show, I mean bad, bad.
Adam Curry:
I have Miss Micky, like, you know- forget it, I, you know, she's like, "I can't believe," because, you know when she was in Holland, she was getting free stuff from designers. You know, she lives with, she shops at H&M, she's like, "Do I really have to downgrade to Old Navy?" [chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
Like, "Yeah, you know, they're stuff ain't all that bad."
John C. Dvorak:
You know, certain women - and I would include her easily -
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
They can wear anything.
Adam Curry:
That's what I'm telling her, "You can wear a garbage bag, honey. In fact, I got you a whole new wardrobe. Look at this box." [chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
You know, the rest of it is, it's just, it's just a label, It's bull crap. I mean Old Navy, you see those Old Navy commercials, a lot of these- you see these models walking around and something. You know that most people don't look that good in Old Navy clothes.
Adam Curry:
I got to tell you, I've sunk so low that I got a voice over agent to try and do commercials, which I've never, I've never been successful at, but they send me like two auditions a day. And, I'm- I swear to God, I'm getting stuff like Old Navy, because you know like they're trying to match up the voice to- [laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
I'd love to hear your voice on a voice over.
Adam Curry:
Uh, Old Navy-
John C. Dvorak:
You should do that surfer voice with that kind of joyous sound. No, they always- they ask me to do the Old Navy thing, and yesterday I did one, and I never- I haven't gotten a gig yet. You know, I'm like- I got to be able to support my family.
John C. Dvorak:
Leo gets these gigs all the time.
Adam Curry:
I know! I just- for some reason- because you know I think you can hear in my voice, I just can't be serious about uh, "You might have a drinking problem. Talk to your Chaplain." I'm like, how- how insincere am I going to be?
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] [Applauds]
Adam Curry:
I mean, do you want to hear that one? Um, let me see if I can- do you want to hear it?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry:
Because I think I have it
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] Drinking problem.
Adam Curry:
This is how bad it got, by the way. Hold on. "Auditions" Here we go, uh
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, "Film House" should- hold on, it just has to load up, here [laughter]
Here we go.
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Adam Curry, Vox Agency. "Should" for Film House Inc.
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Already, you're like, "this guy ain't get the gig." It just even, even that slate is no good. Alright, here we go.
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Film House Inc. People come into my bar to have a good time, and luckily I'm around to make sure things don't get out of hand if someone has-
SFX:
Slide whistle
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Too goo of a time. Id someone has had enough, I cut 'em off. It's best for everyone. But what about people who are not under my watch? You know, some people thing just because they don't go out to bars, or clubs that they're not at risk for a drinking problem.
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle]
Adam Curry:
[scoff]
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
If they've had more than a couple of drinks a day, it could be a problem.
Adam Curry:
Here it comes.
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Even if they are doing it at
home.
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle]
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
They might aught to talk to someone, or see the chaplain.
John C. Dvorak:
[cough]
Adam Curry:
[chuckle]
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Since I'm not around to cut 'em off, maybe you could help me to word out. Okay?
Adam Curry:
[laughter] I mean, I'm not going to get that gig.
SFX:
duck call
John C. Dvorak:
You know uh,
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
Ladies and gentlemen, save Adam from this worth, worse than death!
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
SFX:
duck call
Jingle:
dvorak dot org slash n a
Adam Curry:
And, of course you can always go out and propagate the formula. That will bring in new donors for sure.
Jingle:
Propagate the formula; New Word Order! Shut up, slave!
Adam Curry:
Shut up slave!
SFX:
Slide whistle
Adam Curry:
Alright, now just to prove that we have some real value-for-value, I did a lot of work in these past few days.
Adam Curry:
Uh, and I'd like to jump right into it, if that's ok with you. Because I did some investigation. I did another reading of some official documents. It's really turned into a hobby for me by the way.
John C. Dvorak:
What? Reading boring crap?
Adam Curry:
Yes, and I'm really good at it I hate it, I hate to say it, but I can parse through stuff so quickly. I'm just, it's just like it's-
John C. Dvorak:
This is a new found talent just discovered in the last year.
Adam Curry:
Actually, I discovered this when I was going through my divorce. I couldn't afford a lawyer.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh!
Adam Curry:
And so what I did is, I did all the legal work myself, and the internet makes it quite easy because when someone says family code section 805 you just like, go to google and you search it, there it is and you just read right, if you can read it then- and you might have to ...
John C. Dvorak:
And you were getting feedback from the other attorney's that-
Adam Curry:
That I had a whole team! [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, you had a team.
Adam Curry:
They thought I had a whole team, he was like 'he has a whole team of legal experts it's clear.' [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
By the way, this really makes you wonder.
Adam Curry:
Mhm. Exactly. So, and that's not a joke. I had a lawyer for like three [3] weeks, and I got a two [2] and a half thousand [1000] bill. I'm like, I can't do this. It's just not gonna happen. So, I did it all myself and everything's signed, it's all done. It is official now, actually the judge has stamped it and that's why I can ask Miss Micky to marry me. Fool.
SFX:
Slide whistle
Adam Curry:
So anyway, there's all kinds of interesting documents floating around and there's uh, I got a set this up.
This is, of course, about the Leroy Fifteen [15]. Which, interestingly enough, has expanded to almost twenty [20]. And, um, these are the girls, for those of you new to the program, who all of a sudden develops ticks uh, Tourettes Syndrome-like ticks, and I'm kind of an expert in that because I have that. Although I don't have that much of the yelling dirty words in public thing, but I have all the rest..
And, I'm quite convinced it's, because it's girls, because they're in school, because they're of the perfect age. And because, I've been following this Gardisil HPV vaccination for such a long time, I am absolutely convinced that this is an adverse affect to Gardisil. And, the media, who lives-
John C. Dvorak:
Or something in the shot
Adam Curry:
Yes, uh exactly. And the media, who of course, are whores of the pharmaceutical industry. If you just watch television and just pay attention to commercials, it's all pharmaceutical ads. Almost everything is related. Every other break you're gonna have, maybe every break, you're gonna have an pharmaceutical advertisement.
So, they have to cover this up. And the media is complicit in this and now I can start to prove this. But, the first thing that they are doing is they are trying to discredit anything that points towards Gardisil
Adam Curry:
and what's interesting is that, in the document I am about to share with you, they have not tested any other vaccination. Where I think that it is very fair to say, maybe we should check for Swine Flu, or the flu vaccine, because it seems those are being handed out for free like candy everywhere. They didn't even test that so it's kind of, you know, jumping out off any page that they are only checking for one vaccine and nothing else.
Adam Curry:
But, of course, they brought in Erin Brockovich to continue the cover up. And she's just a whore going after any money she can get. I'm sorry if you like Julia Roberts in the movie. That's not necessarily the persona that Eril Brockovich is. Here's NBC, with Brian Williams, doing their bit to cover up and then we'll get into the discovery:
Clip:
For the first time since symptoms started appearing in teenage girls in this small town, a thirty six [36] year-old woman, not associated with Leroy High School, is being treated for severe ticks, and Tourrettes-like symptoms.
Adam Curry:
So, what they have to do here is they have to say, it's not just these girls, now we have a thirty six [36] year old woman. And they bring out this woman:
Clip:
Is it hard to walk?
Clip (Speaker 1):
Well, my whole right side is affected
Clip:
Marge Fitzsimmons is a local mom, and a licensed nurse practitioner.
Clip (Speaker 1):
This is really scary. It's like somebody came in and [stammers] took home away
Clip:
Now a team of environmentalists, headed up by activist Erin Brockovich, believes the growing problem may stem from a train derailment near the school more than forty [40] years ago.
Adam Curry:
So, they're still on this, ohh it must be chemicals, it must be something in the water. And this woman, she has a version of Tourettes. It's not at all like the ticks that these girls have. And, I'm sorry, I consider myself to be somewhat of an expert. I can see someone with a tick or Tourettes a mile away and actually we recognize each other. It's like a secret club, you know-
John C. Dvorak:
It's like the TV, the new drama series, "Grim".
Adam Curry:
I don't know that one.
John C. Dvorak:
Anyway, go on.
People who see that will get that joke.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, we literally, I, you know, like, a waiter will, we're in a restaurant -sometimes I don't, but usually, you know, I'll look at him and I go like, "It's okay man, I know what you mean, look at me. So don't worry about..."
And actually when you relax, then it gets better.
It's more about the fear of people noticing.
So this woman, she clear - this is not the same.
Adam Curry:
It is not the same and I can say that from my own forty-seven [47], well forty [40] years of experience. It started when I was seven [7]. Now here's where it gets very interesting. The health department, the New York state health department released a document. This was released January thirty-first, two thousand twelve [2012-01-12]. And uh, it is their findings in the investigation of neurologic symptoms amongst Leroy uh, High School students..and this is the interim report; October, two thousand eleven [2011] to January, two thousand twelve [2012]
Adam Curry:
And just a spoiler, right off the bat:
I'll go to the end here and I'll give you the conclusion. "The health care providers and public health agencies involved in this investigation consider this cluster of cases to be the result of Conversion Disorder slash Mass Psychogenic Illness. Mass Psychogenic Illness has been defined as a group of symptoms suggestive of organic disease, but without an identified cause in a group of individuals with shared beliefs about the cause of the symptoms.
Adam Curry:
Outbreaks of Mass Psychogenic Illness affects females more than males."
So, they're basically saying, these girls are crazy. That's what it is, "please, nothing to see here." They have mass hysteria similar to if you know someone is throwing up, you might to throw up. That's basically what it is if you look into the definition. So, they're going to summarize first about ticks.
Adam Curry:
Now, here's some background information. "Ticks are repeated involuntary twitches, movements or sounds. Isolated and transient ticks are common amongst children, affecting up to twenty percent [20%] of the school-age population." Did you know that? Twenty percent [20%]?
John C. Dvorak:
It seems high.
Adam Curry:
It seems extremely high to me. I mean, I was the only kid in a school of several thousand.
"A collaborative investigation by New York state Department of Health, New York state officials of Mental Health, Genesee County Health Department, Leroy blah blah blah.
Adam Curry:
And here it is, "found no infectious or environmental, uh etiologies? Three students had illnesses associated with tick symptoms pre-dating their attendance at the school," which is interesting, so we can kind of take them out of the equation which is very key to the numbers when it gets down to it. "The primary findings were that there were no infectious or environmental or public health concerns related to this cluster of students while preparing this report.
Adam Curry:
Uh, the Department of Health learned of three [3] additional students with possible tic symptoms; they are under investigation." So, you can take away six [6] of the fifteen [15]. So now we're gettin' down to a very very small number. In fact, twelve [12] students were evaluated by Workfit Medical and eight [8] of the twelve [12] were evaluated by Dent Neurological Institute. This is where it gets very interesting. So, I looked up these two [2] companies.
Adam Curry:
I'm like, well who exactly is the Workfit Medical. Now, if you look at Workfit Medical LLC, this is, I mean they don't even say, you know it doesn't seem like they belong to some other larger organization. Essentially, they provide occupational health services. One of the things the actually do is provide your company with immunizations. And if you look at the web site, Workfit Medical dot com, they're not a, far as I can tell, they're just a small group of doctors who have a practice.
Adam Curry:
Uh, Occupational health services. I don't, if you look at the About Workfit, it's Jay Ellie MD, sixteen [16] years of emergency medical room. She, basically, has four [4] locations in Western New York. It's a clinic and they go in and say okay, it's all good. So, to me that's not like the Mayo Clinic, or something. Right? You with me?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah! No, keep going, I try to get a, yeah..
Adam Curry:
Alright, so now, but now-
John C. Dvorak:
We're ready for the punch line here.
Adam Curry:
Here it comes. So now we go to "Dent." "Dent." Very interesting as it's, just let me get my document here. So, again, they talked about Dent Medical. The DENT Neurological Institute. Here's a little uh, news piece I found, speaking to one of the doctors and he sounds extremely nervous and he's not happy about being involved in this whatsoever.
Clip:
Scott, Dr. Laszlo Mechtler is a world-renowned neurologist who is based at the DENT Institute, in Amherst.
Clip:
He says a lot of the hysteria surrounding this issue is coming from people who have not examined the students or who have theories that have just not panned out, medically.
Clip (Laszlo Mechtler):
I'm trying to bring some sanity into this insanity.
Clip:
Dr. Mechtler says that for a long time, he and his colleagues at DENT did not publicize the cases which were diagnosed months ago, because he was afraid of exactly what's happened now.
Adam Curry:
This is interesting. First, first of all, he said, "I was afraid about the sanity of this insanity." Listen to the words very carefully.
Clip:
A kind of hysteria that's been fueled by publicity seekers and those on cable TV. Mechtler says the three [3] very latest cases are very similar to the existing ones
Clip (Laszlo Mechtler):
I can say as most of the other patients, they're girls
Clip (Laszlo Mechtler):
uh, young girls, obviously in the early teens. So, similar symptoms, similar town, uh many of them know each other.
Clip:
Are adolescent girls somehow more susceptible to this sort of thing?
Clip (Laszlo Mechtler):
They are. And, and I'm not sure if we know why.
Clip:
Why are you so confident about ruling out any environmental factors?
Clip (Laszlo Mechtler):
Half of them are already getting improved, or significantly improved. So, it cannot be an environmental fact-
It can't be a toxin in the brain, then why are they improving? Number one (1). Number two (2), there's no toxin that would cause these symptoms. The TCE brought up at national, with the national media, does not cause symptoms like this.
Adam Curry:
Now, I just want to stop here for one second. According to the New York State Health Department, their OWN RESEARCH I am reading it right here on the .pdf. They site an example of a five (5) year old Chinese boy who developed exactly these symptoms when he overdosed when he overdosed on mercury which
To Miss Micky: Thank you.
- which was contained in some form of allergy medicine that he snorted too much of. So mercury, according to their OWN DOCUMENT the same document I'm reading right here, CAN actually cause these symptoms and of course mercury IS often used as an adjuvant and is ..
John C. Dvorak:
Wasn't he .. uh .. well it's not an adjuvant, it's a preservative.
Adam Curry:
Preservative, sorry.
John C. Dvorak:
Didn't he say TCE specifically though, which is trichloroethylene
Adam Curry:
Yeah, that's the stuff that Brockovich is going after;à the TCE.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So, he's pushing aside the fact that their... He's actually lying because there ARE toxins that will make this ...
John C. Dvorak:
Oh. Okay .. go on ..
Adam Curry:
... tic-like behavior happen which is mercury. Now let's continue ..
Clip:
We think we have ruled out everything environmental, autoimmune, vaccination-related
Adam Curry:
Ah! "Vaccination-related" No! You haven't ruled it out, you've ONLY ruled out Gardasil; which is the kicker.
Clip:
And, to backup what Dr. Mechtler just said; within the last half-hour, the State Health Department has put out his statement. And, what it says it that it has not found any infectious or, or environmental causes for the students illnesses.
Now, interestingly Dr. Mechtler did tell me that recent a parent came in with her daughter believing that she too, has Conversion Disorder. But when Dr. Mechtler examined the girl, he found that out in this particular case, that the girl actually DID have a a case of tics.
Adam Curry:
Okay. So, let's go to the document. Now we can already rule out six (6), if not eight (8) of the fifteen (15) because they are not in the study about Gardasil. And again, they *only* checked for Gardasil. Um, here it is: "two (2) of the three(3) cases who were tic-free for a period of time experienced an exacerbation of tic syndromes during this time period...."
I'm sorry , here we go ... "According to the New York State Immunization Information System seven (7) of the cases"
So we've already ruled out almost ALL of the other ones but they are saying not all of the girls have it but they actually say we didn't count those girls cause they had tic syndromes and things BEFORE we did this study.
"Seven (7) of the cases received Gardasil. Five (5) cases received the recommended three (3) doses while two (2) cases received two (2) of three (3) doses." It's very complicated, the pdf is in the show notes, you gotta read it.
"Six (6) of seven (7) cases who received Gardasil had onset of tic syndromes greater than one (1) year after their last dose of the vaccine. One (1) case received her third (3rd) dose after her her tic symptoms onset." Here's the conclusion! "There is no temporal relationship between vaccine administration and symptom onset that could be identified."
John C. Dvorak:
What?!
Adam Curry:
Yes. I am going to read that one more time because I looked up the word. "There is no temporal relationship between vaccine administration, and symptom onset that could be identified."
The word "temporal" is the key here. They're saying, temporal pertains to time. So they're saying because they studied when these tics started and a couple of these girls had the vaccine more than a year ago, therefore there is no relationship IN TIME, between the vaccine administration and the symptoms. They're not saying there is no relationship between the administration of the vaccine and the symptoms, they're saying there's no TEMPORAL relationship.
That, to me is the smoking gun.
Now, let me blow your mind. Guess who works at the DENT Neurological Institute?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, okay, go.
Adam Curry:
Sanjay Gupta
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] The same guy who's reporting this on CNN?
Adam Curry:
And saying that they're just insane. He's right there on the website. Sanjay Gupta, award-winning doctor.
This is a coverup of epic proportion. But what's, what's-
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, I think you could have started with this part, um-
Adam Curry:
Yeah, not everyone listens to this show for five years, you need to set it up a little bit. But I, think the temporal, not saying there's no relationship. No, they're saying no temporal relationship.
John C. Dvorak:
So, uh, hm. Well, that's not, yeah, well, this is not, the way I'm listening to this, even though I think you could have started with the punchline.
Uh, And by the way uh, according to Merriam-Webster, I'll just give you the definition of temporal: "of or relating to time as opposed to eternity, of or relating to earthly life," and the rest of it is, uh, just-
Adam Curry:
Right, the way I read it is girls who develop these tic-like syndromes who had Gardasil a year ago, we just discount that.
There's no "temporal" relationship. They are saying, 'well if it is more than a year ago, then hey ..'
John C. Dvorak:
It can't possibly be it.
Adam Curry:
It can't possibly have anything to do with it.
John C. Dvorak:
But coincidentally they ALL had Gardasil shots. Is that what you're saying?
Adam Curry:
Yeah .. The ones that actually matter. Not the ones they discounted because they already had tic-like syndromes et cetera.
John C. Dvorak:
Right, right. The girls who had the, the ones that we've isolated as the ones that somehow out-of-the-blue have gotten this problem have all had Gardasil.
Adam Curry:
Exactly.
John C. Dvorak:
Which means, of course, the vaccine could be interacting with something else.
You know, like X number of glasses of milk, who knows. But it seems like a weird coincidence that the only girls who've got this problem have had the shot.
Adam Curry:
Yes. And it's growing.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I don'y see why anyone would get the shot to be honest about it.
Adam Curry:
Well, because doctors are paid to sell it to you. I mean uh, even Micky! who is not a teenage girl, her doctor tried to say, "You know, you really should consider the uh, Gardasil shot."
Micky's like, "Uh yeah, I think I will go SHOOT MYSELF first!" They're paid to do it, John, they're paid. That's why.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, this is the reason don't want- I mean, these sorts of doctors should should not, you should not go to them.
Adam Curry:
Now, I'm doing more research because there was one other instance of this mass hysteria happening. And, it happened in nineteen thirty-nine [1939], in Bellevue, Louisiana.
That was the last time it was diag ... we had a diagnosis of mass hysteria. And uh, it's hard to delve into it. To find information. You know Google doesn't really go back to 1939?
John C. Dvorak:
It barely goes back to 1999.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] So, you know, I don't know. Was there a different type of immunization scheme that started off in 1939 that you can remember?
Adam Curry:
[chuckles]
John C. Dvorak:
There - HA! HA!
Adam Curry:
HA! HA!
SFX:
Squirrel!
SFX:
bell [ding!]
Adam Curry:
Sorry.
John C. Dvorak:
Really, the immunization thing was pretty minor back then, I am assuming. You can look it up in the old archives of The New York Times. I am sure you can find the data still out there. I mean The New York Times has a great archive.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I mean I'm, I'm ....
John C. Dvorak:
I have a subscription so I can get you into the paid for archives.
Adam Curry:
Would it kill you to do some work?
John C. Dvorak:
Nah. I don't feel like it.
Adam Curry:
Germany began diphtheria vaccinations in 1939...
John C. Dvorak:
Diphtheria
Adam Curry:
.. that doesn't help so much. Yeah that doesn't help. But that was a ..
John C. Dvorak:
Has it only happened in that one place?
Adam Curry:
Uh, Yes. University began selling the vaccine in 1939. Interesting. There is a lot of stuff her in the uh ..
John C. Dvorak:
I would be more suspicious of government uhh...
Adam Curry:
Chemtrails!
John C. Dvorak:
... experimentation on the public when it is isolated in the middle of "Nowheresville", Louisiana. That sounds like something they would do.
Adam Curry:
Western Equine Encephalitis [Adam pronounced wrongly as en-se-phal-a-tis] in horses.
John C. Dvorak:
Encephalitis [John corrects Adam's pronunciation of en-sef-uh-LIE-tis ]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, that. Encephalitis. That's what the vaccine was for. A horse disease? Well yeah, if you are shooting kids up with horse tranquilizer. Horse vaccine? That does not sound good.
John C. Dvorak:
Alright. Well, enough.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, it's nice to know that Sanjay Gupta's on the case. They hired ONE agency. Not Mayo Clinic, not the National Institute of Health.
No. The DENT Neurological Institute which happens to contain doctors on the take, including Sanjay Gupta. And the guy is NOT disclosing this, by the way. I haven't heard him say, "Oh, by the way, I'm a member of the company that is doing the investigation." I never heard him say that.
John C. Dvorak:
Maybe Piers Morgan should interview him.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] Yeah .. Good.
John C. Dvorak:
Ahh, well
Adam Curry:
Anyway, on the case protecting you Consumer Watchdog Adam Curry, everybody!
John C. Dvorak:
So I'm watching... Meanwhile, I'm watching Sky.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles] Groovy. Groovy, groovy.
John C. Dvorak:
.. And it's out of the UK. And I am telling you, the reporting on the situation in Syria and Egypt, both is so staged.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, I know.
John C. Dvorak:
And the Sky stuff is really bad. I mean I have a couple of reports here that if you want to play SOME of them.
Adam Curry:
Yeah that is Rupert Murdoch, of course.
jd, Yeah. And the serious stuff is really .. well play the .. I don't have the best Syria clip.
I could have had, and unfortunately I can't back these things up, so I have to record the entire broadcast and then hope I catch something because it's over the internet. But a good example is Syria reporting on Sky UK. Play a little of this and you'll see how they try to dramatize everything.
Clip:
[gunfire and battle sounds playing]
Adam Curry:
[chuckles] Wait this is YouTube footage, right? It's not professional grade video. I can already tell by the sound. Right?
John C. Dvorak:
It's, you know -
He actually explains it. I don't know what the hell it is.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
But they trust it!
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
Clip (Speaker 1):
[gunfire and battle sounds playing] It came in the darkness. A sustained barrage of mortar and artillery rounds smashing into districts of homes.
Adam Curry:
HA!
Clip (Speaker 1):
[gunfire and battle sounds playing] Leveling buildings. Killing and wounding schores of people.
Adam Curry:
Killing Kittens!
Clip (Speaker 1):
[battle sounds and crowd reaction playing] We can't verify this amateur video, but we have no reason to doubt it's authenticity, nor the eye witness reports from inside the battlefield.
The Al-Malikiyah district of the city took the brunt of the attacks. [Louder gunfire and blasts] The streets reverberating to the sounds of explosions and gunfire. An intense offensive against a civilian housing area where opposition is strong.
Clip (Speaker 2):
The shouts of explosions didn't give up until this moment. Man, the number of, of, of, uh [gunfire and blasts]
We're, we're, we're more than two hundred and thirty, you can hear now the sound of explosions and the sound of bullets. The people here [gunfire] are going, are running now out of their houses, you know why? Because they are shooting from far distance of the neighborhood.
Clip (Speaker 1):
The dead and the injured soon overwhelm the few field hospitals set up over the past ten months to treat people who can't risk going to the main hospitals.
Adam Curry:
[Giggles]
Clip (Speaker 1):
Neighboring Mosques are now being used for triage and for keeping the bodies of the dead.
Adam Curry:
[Groans]
Clip (Speaker 1):
It's unclear why such an offensive would take place as the United Nations considers a vote condemning the actions of the Syrian government.
Adam Curry:
I can-
John C. Dvorak:
Well there's your punchline!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, exactly! [Laughs] Of course!
John C. Dvorak:
I mean why does somebody add two-and-two [2 + 2]? Why are they doing it now just as the UN is trying to vote to condemn them? Because they're not! This is a scam!
Adam Curry:
So this was, I've actually seen this video on CNN, the exact same report with the exact same guy, now I'm pissed off because I was like, I didn't pull the clips.
I also saw it on Euro News, I think, and the New York Times did exactly the same thing. Here is, this is the New York Times. The paper of record. The Ministry of Truth. "Syrian Government forces used a barrage of mortar shells and heavy machine gun fire in an assault-
that began Friday night in the central city of Holmes killing at least two hundred (200) people, wounding hundreds more, opposition activists reported on Saturday."
So they're getting this from opposition activists, not from journalists, and it says, "The reports could not be independently confirmed, but it appeared to be the bloodiest episode in the nearly eleven month-old uprising.
As word spread via Twitter, opposition protests broke out Saturday at Syrian embassies around the world, including Egypt, Germany, and Kuwait."
And then we get our President, "We must work with the Syrian people towards building a brighter future for Syria. A Syria without Assad could be a Syria in which all Syrians are subject to the rule of law.
And where minorities are able to exercise their legitimate rights and uphold their identities and traditions while acting as a fully enfranchised citizens," citizen, citizen!, "in a unified republic. The United States and our International partners support the Syrian people in achieving their aspirations,
and will continue to assist the Syrian people towards that goal. We will help because we stand for principles that include universal rights for all people and just political and economic reform.
The suffering citizens of Syria must know ''We are with you'' and the Assad regime must come to an end."
And Lucifer! even tried to get everything all hooked up at the UN, but failed.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Russia and China have vetoed a UN security council resolution calling on Syria's President Assad to stand down.
The United States said the vote has increased the risk of more bloodshed and civil war in Syria. Russia had said earlier that the Western/Arab-backed resolution was an improper attempt at regime change.
Adam Curry:
Exactly, and he's not lying!
Clip (Speaker 1):
The draft resolution, as put to the vote, didn't adequately reflect the real state of affairs in Syria, and it sent an unbalanced signal to the Syrian parties.
Adam Curry:
Of course, because we know it's fake!
Clip (Speaker 1):
The co-sponsors of the resolution haven't taken into account the wording for the draft that we proposed.
To the effect that the Syrian opposition must distance itself from extremist groups, which are carrying out acts of violence, and we called upon States and all those who have the relevant opportunities to use their influence to put an end to such acts.
Adam Curry:
Bring in Clippity-Clop!
Clip (Speaker 1):
Earlier in Munich, the U.S. Secretary of State and the Russian Foreign Minister had met, but the talks had failed to overcome Moscow's misigivings.
Adam Curry:
Clippity-Clop!
Clip (Hillary Clinton):
As I said at the United Nations on Tuesday,
to block this resolution is to bear responsibility for the horrors that are occurring on the ground in Syria.
Adam Curry:
Which we cannot confirm.
John C. Dvorak:
Which nobody can confirm.
Adam Curry:
Nobody can confirm. Where's?
John C. Dvorak:
The Russians can confirm it's not happening, at least that's what they say, but I thought the whole thing was so staged-
Adam Curry:
[Moans]
John C. Dvorak:
to give it to the Russians and the Chinese to veto it, because they knew they were going to do that.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And then pal, Rice, your pal Susan Rice-
Adam Curry:
Oh, "We're disgusted, I want to throw up it's so horrible, I'm disgusted!"
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, she went on and on, I wish I had the clip of that, I only heard it on the radio. I was like "Oh my God, this woman is just showboating!"
Adam Curry:
I didn't even clip it, I thought YOU, I thought for sure you would have it.
John C. Dvorak:
I didn't get it, I heard it. I didn't get it.
Adam Curry:
Aw, well hold on a second, I'll play it. She's disgusted! "I'm disgusted!"
John C. Dvorak:
It's all fake! She's not disgusted, she's happy she doesn't have to be the one that vetoed it.
Adam Curry:
She's a liar! She's just a liar, they're all liars!
And then the President comes out with a statement, I think I have it here. This is Rice being disgusted.
Clip (Speaker 1):
[Voice of Translator] I shall now put the draft resolution to the vote.
Adam Curry:
Vote. Who's this guy?
John C. Dvorak:
Sargent At Arms, I don't know.
Adam Curry:
He's French! How come the French guy gets to talk?
Clip:
seventy-seven [77], stroke..
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah, yeah! Hold on, where's Rice?
Clip (Susan Rice):
While delaying-
Adam Curry:
Here we go.
Clip (Susan Rice):
While seeking safety, and security.
Adam Curry:
Uh, back a little, there we go. Rice.
Clip (Susan Rice):
The United States is disgusted that a couple members of this Council-
Adam Curry:
Russia, China
Clip (Susan Rice):
continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose here-
Adam Curry:
Of KILLING BROWN PEOPLE IN DESERTS!
Clip (Susan Rice):
Addressing an ever deepening crisis in Syria and a growing threat-
Adam Curry:
By the way, I think she's like four foot nine.
John C. Dvorak:
How come she never mentions Bahrain? We know for a fact that hell's breaking loose there and it's been stomped down by the Arab Forces from Saudi Arabia.
We never- we never- That's never mentioned once!
Adam Curry:
Because-
John C. Dvorak:
It's only been mentioned on Democracy Now.
Adam Curry:
Hello! It's because the Formula One is going to Bahrain. We don't want to mess up our seats!
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, I didn't realize the Formula One's headed there.
Adam Curry:
You crazy? And no sooner we ended the show on Thursday when, I think I literally said "This means war is coming," BOOM, Paneta, now we know what Paneta was all over the press, because he needed a little bit of attention to then come out and say, "Oh, I'm not going to report on the fact I know that Israel-
wants to go attack Iran, but I'm not commenting on it." And then everyone goes nuts! I mean, the whole world goes CRAZY about "Iran, oh Iran, they're gonna kill, uh, Israel's gonna go, they're gonna go in, uh!" [Sigh]
John C. Dvorak:
Here's the thing that bothered me most about this little theater of late. The character that comes out of, well here, play-
"Iran's Bogus Missile" and then we'll discuss it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I love this! [Laughs]
Clip (Speaker 1):
A top Israeli official is claiming a missile site destroyed in an explosion last year was producing missiles capable of reaching the United States. Moshe Ayalon, Israel's Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Strategic Affairs made the assertion in a speech on Thursday.
Clip (Moshe Ayalon):
[Voice of Translator] The explosion in the research and development installation for the Iranian Missile System was for a system that was preparing-
to produce or develop a missile with a range of ten thousand kilometers (10000 km). This is for the Great Satan, the United States, America, and not us, and therefore it's not just a threat against Israel.
So, when we reach the discussion of a nuclear weapon in the hands of this regime, we need to look at it with in this perspective.
Clip (Speaker 1):
U.S. Officials have cast doubt on Ayalon's claims saying Iran is nowhere-
close to producing missiles capable of hitting U.S. soil.
Adam Curry:
The only thing that's wrong there is that it's not for the Great Satan, it's for the Great Lucifer. That's what they should be saying. It's for Hillary Clinton.
John C. Dvorak:
No, they're not going to do that. So this guy who's real name is Milanski, he changed his name to Ayalon because he joined some group, it was like a club.
Adam Curry:
Mhm.
John C. Dvorak:
And he's essentially this war hawk, he's been in there, he's not some slouch, he's the Vice Prime Minister and the Minister of Strategic Affairs-
and he's coming up with this bullcrap. Don't forget Iran is the country that sent off these missiles, these crappy missiles that they had to Photoshop.
Adam Curry:
[Giggles] Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
You know, the launch so they could show that they had more than one that actually got off the ground. I mean, these people aren't developing any missile technology.
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
So this is an out-and-out LIE.
Adam Curry:
But if I look at all the pieces on the chessboard, so of course we want Syria. Strategically, there's a lot of good reasons to have Syria.
John C. Dvorak:
No. Who's "we"? I don't think we want Syria. I think it's all bluster because we have already made the agreement with the Russians through Exxon. That's THEIR operation and they get to keep it, and we're just trying to make it LOOK as if ... I think the whole thing is a charade. We don't want Syria. There's Nothing there for us.
Adam Curry:
I'm gonna agree with you and I'm going to say why. This is the get out of jail free card for the Russians and the Chiners when we go and bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. That's why.
So Russia can say, "Look we had nothing to do with it."
But the Iran thing, that's real. They really, REALLY, really want it. And they are going to go get it.
John C. Dvorak:
We somebody's going to do something, and it's not a GOOD THING.
Adam Curry:
And we're gonna go kill people, for sure. And maybe .. We've got Georgia, so Georgia is now on board that's why Saakashvili was eating his tie there in Washington, because that will be a strategic launching pad from which to launch whatever we want to go from the other side and go get around.
Just look at the map then you can see it. Um, it's very obvious and the sad thing is, is that people like Piers Morgan, "Well yeah like hey, preemptive! We have to go kill them! You crazy? You cannot have a firecracker! It'll kill you!"
John C. Dvorak:
Well, the pressure the obvious media and political pressure to do something in Iran. Ron Paul's the only one apparently resisting this.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Everybody else is on board. Everybody else is buying it. Although, I can't believe they actually BELIEVE it. So there is some alternative .... there's a different, there's something going on, I THINK. It's not just about the oil in Iran. They've got SOME but thy haven't got anything like Iraq. There's a missing piece that ...
Adam Curry:
No. I think it's all .. it's those pipelines. I think THAT'S what we're missing, John.
John C. Dvorak:
It could be the pipelines. Pipelines are big.
Adam Curry:
Well, the pipelines have to be, and these are coming from Russia, by the way. The pipelines from Russia that bypass Poland, they had to kill off all the Polish Government to make that happen, and that's to go feed Europe. We want Europe dependent on Russia, which of course, is also American oil, all the deals are in place, as you pointed out, And we have to remove Iran from the equation. I think it's- Mr. Oil actually, he should write up a blog post or something, he probably knows.
But he probably doesn't want to play his hand because everyone will start speculating, but there's so many pipelines, it's all about the pipelines, not just the oil, but the distribution and, of course, where it comes from. I don't think it's so much that we want their oil, although that would be nice at the end, as a bonus, but we want to stop oil flowing from Iran to Europe, through the Strait, because then we can sell more through the Russian pipeline.
That to me is the ONLY reason. I mean what-
John C. Dvorak:
Well, that would explain Russia's being on board-
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
with this current theatre and playing the bad guy, they've done it before, they don't mind it. And the Chinese, of course, are just idiots. So who knows what they're thinking.
Adam Curry:
Hey, wait a minute, don't we need a pipeline through Syria? Hold on second, I bet you that has to do with it. So the Russians probably said, "Look, we'll give you your damn pipeline." Hold on, let me see, pipeline, Syria, Book of Knowledge. That's all gas, yeah, could be.
I'm thinking. Syria-Turkey Pipeline? Of course, that would make sense with Turkey joining the E.U., I mean, this-
John C. Dvorak:
Syria, here's a Fox News article "Syria Claims Terrorist Blow Up Pipeline"
Adam Curry:
Uh huh.
John C. Dvorak:
So there's pipelines everywhere, but there's, how important is it and what's the Russian connection? Because they are ones with that port and uh, yeah, it would be quite amusing to set up the EU, which is totally dependant on Russian oil;
Uh, Which has been, we've been heading in that direction. Two years ago we discussed this possibility.
Adam Curry:
I have a report, uh twenty (20 seconds) that might help us
Clip:
Iran will cut oil exports to what it calls "hostile European states" to preempt an EU embargo due to come into force on July, the first (1st). Oil Administer Rastan Hussain [phonetic] He gave no indication on timing nor which countries Taran would target.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, that's Euronews, so obviously that's propaganda. And there's no evidence other than a voice over that tells me what's being said. And what's with the stinger music all of a sudden on Euronews?
John C. Dvorak:
There's stinger music on everything now. Our local news now has stingers.
Adam Curry:
We should do more of that.
SFX:
swoosh
Adam Curry:
Yeah, we need to do more stingers.
John C. Dvorak:
We haven't got any good stingers.
Adam Curry:
Well...
John C. Dvorak:
That one's not the best
SFX:
swoosh/fart
Adam Curry:
That's my favorite
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's kind of like it.
Adam Curry:
We need more little hits and stuff.
John C. Dvorak:
We need little swishes and things.
Adam Curry:
What was that thing you had the other day? Oh yeah. I got it. Here it is.
John C. Dvorak:
It has to follow something I say. "And Adam THAT'S the way it's ...."
Adam Curry:
Hoooold on! Wait a wait a minute.
John C. Dvorak:
You don't have it queued?
Adam Curry:
Yeah. Okay. Go ahead!
John C. Dvorak:
"... And Adam, THAT"S how it's going to end!"
SFX:
[theatrical doom sound]
Adam Curry:
Onto weather now, we have more Mother Ships falling out of the skies. Yeah I think we should use that out of the skies.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I think we should use that between every single topic.
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle]
Adam Curry:
So much for Iran.
SFX:
stinger
Adam Curry:
John you have something on Egypt. More false news, I believe. Right now we're going to go over to Berkeley, California. John C. Dvorak is standing by.
SFX:
stinger
John C. Dvorak:
Maybe over using it. So uh, but we do have something on Egypt. We have a bunch of weird stuff that happened. I thought this was kind of interesting and then I looked into this guy, Amr Moussa, who is the head of the Arab League. And I'm listening to a report on CNN.
John C. Dvorak:
It's one of these panels, where this guy is discussing - for a think tank, so the guy is discussing something that he thought was an anomaly. And then, after I looked into it, it's not really an anomaly at all. This guy, Amr Moussa, is trying, was trying to oust Mubarak and he is actually running for President as we speak. He's the head of the Arab League and he's an anti-Isrealite, he's just a really, as far as he's concerned Assad's great.
John C. Dvorak:
So that makes some sense with the way the Arab League is handling Syria. But, when I heard this I went, 'why would this one guy do what he did in terms of his take on the Egyptian revolution?'
Clip:
engagement and really sowed this feeling of helplessness in the people. I mean, as dictators go, he wasn't Saddam Hussein, he wasn't Sofala Assad, he wasn't Gaddafi. There will be no mass graves being unearthed in Egypt.
Clip:
But, he really sort of killed their spirit and it took a while but people just lost faith in themselves. And so one of the, immediately before the revolution started, the Arab League had a summit in Sharm El Sheikh, an economic summit, and it was right after Tunisia and it was right after right before Egypt and Egyptians were starting to set themselves on fire. You had that very disturbing little mini-trend happening in Egypt. And all the Arab League delegates were like, 'oh no, it's not possible. This is not Tunisia.'
Clip:
You know, everybody had a reason why Egypt could not, why the example could not be repeated. And the one guy who was off-message, I give him credit for this, Amr Moussa. From day one he was there and he was the head of the Arab League. He's supposed to be in lockstep with these guys. And I was shocked by the quotes I got from him. He was basically saying, 'No, this is a wake up call. There's things that really need to change. This could spread, we have to be very careful. We have to sort of acknowledge the people will not be marginalized anymore, I remember the quote vividly.
John C. Dvorak:
So, uh, apparently Moussa -and I think this is part of a larger scheme for some of these Islamists to take over most of the area, including Syria, if they can. I mean, that's what I think is really going on in Syria, which is to get rid of this guy so they can put in an Islamist state.
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And that's what's going on now as we see by all the voting results in Egypt.
John C. Dvorak:
It's almost all brotherhood and some of these other groups, Salafists of varying kinds. And that's what this guy was. This head of the Arab League. He hated Mubarak because Mubarak supposedly kicked him out of government work in Egypt because the guy was a complainer. And he was always bitchin' about the close connection with, of the government with the US, for example. He's not a pro-American type. When I first started looking into this I said, well maybe this guy is a CIA plant. Now I'm thinking no, I don't think so
John C. Dvorak:
He's just a-
Adam Curry:
No, no.
John C. Dvorak:
He's one of these Islamist guys who would love to go to war with Isreal and he's old. He's 76 and he wants to take over the place.
Adam Curry:
I think what's happening, and I got a little clue to this, so obviously what's happening in Egypt is not the way um, the elitist government in the United States want it to go. And they did a shot across the bow, at least that's the way I saw it, because we know it's a one-two punch.
Adam Curry:
We just showed that, 'hey, if you have pirates or whatever and you capture one of our citizens, we're gonna come in with our Seal Team Six [6]. Or maybe we'll send a drone to kill you.' And there was a warning shot. And something changed, 'cause something was going on in Egypt that somebody didn't like and then they threw this story out:
Clip:
We have breaking news this morning out of Egypt right now. A group of armed gunmen kidnapped two [2] American female tourists,
Clip:
and their Egyptian tour guide. This is in the Sinai Peninsula. Ivan Watson is live in Cairo with the latest for us. Good morning Ivan.
Clip (Ivan Watson):
Good morning. That's right, the Egyptian authorities confirming that two [2] American tourists were kidnapped in South Sinai by what they say were unidentified Bedouin kidnappers. The U.S. Embassy here in Cairo has confirmed they've gotten that information from Egyptian authorities and are working with them to uh, make sure of the citizenship of these people who have been taken hostage.
Clip:
We've spoken with some of our trusted Bedouin sources in the Sinai Peninsula. They say that, uh, the Bedouin, they come from the Huramsha tribe, and they want the release of some suspects from their tribe, who were arrested by Egyptian authorities...
Adam Curry:
So,uh, first of all, I love the term "trusted, some of our trusted Bedouin sources". I have a couple of those, I got a couple in my back pocket.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, one drives a cab.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, some trusted Bedouin sources.
Adam Curry:
So, when you listen to that report and you hear them say, "Well you know, we are going to confirm the nationality, if they are citizens then we'll come and get you." And that story dropped off right away. When I heard "tourists" I'm like, "Okay, agents?"
Must be agents, right? I mean WHO right now says, "You know what? Hey John! I got a great idea! Let's take a vacation to Egypt!"
John C. Dvorak:
Oh good! Then let's go to the Cyanide Desert!
Adam Curry:
Yes! [laughing] Groovy! I am a tourist! "Excuse me! Do you know where the internet cafe is?
Adam Curry:
I'm looking for the internet cafe. Please!" So something must have happened. Does that relate to your Sky News on Egypt clip? Is there anything that we can get from that?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, that, no. I don't think there's a connection that Sky News on Egypt is a, there's a real theater going on with this. You know, you can just see its stage where they uh, where the police are holding back a bunch of protesters. And using tear gas to do it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And they, the kids are throwing the tear gas back. And then they are showing these kids who apparently take a breath of,
John C. Dvorak:
they breathe in a little tear gas instead of having a normal reaction,
Clip:
[loud street sounds, sirens] [Female voice] Through the day we watched as thousands stormed to fight here. Some were ready with masks. But every move forward was matched with another blast of gas. But there's little protection against this.
Clip:
Running battles is a [someone shouting] as they tried to move forwards.
Adam Curry:
[Scoff]
Clip:
But, of course they keep on being forced back.
[voice over] Hundreds have collapsed. Carried out struggling to breathe. Rescuers on motorbikes are taking the injured to waiting ambulances.
Adam Curry:
This is the same script as Syria!
John C. Dvorak:
And, not yet, I know, [stammering] I actually had to listen to the whole clip to make sure I had I had the right clip.
Clip:
The patients slumped unconscious as they speed through the crowds.
Clip:
But despite the dangers the protesters brave the tear gas again, and again. The only weapons they have, is ones being used against them. The gas canisters hurled back towards the police members. [hissing gas canisters] It was sparked by a deadly football riot. But the root causes frustration. That the hated military is still in charge a year after the revolution here.
Clip (Speaker 1):
This bomb made in USA. 'k?
Clip (Speaker 1):
They hit us with this bomb, okay? And we don't know what we should do. This is impossible!
Clip (Speaker 2):
There is no radical change in Egypt. We need freedom.
Adam Curry:
Where is Anderson Pooper?! We got,
John C. Dvorak:
So-
Adam Curry:
We got to send him in! He's got to go report on this.
John C. Dvorak:
So you look at these guys. They're running them off on motorcycles. They have these, like, some way, some how passed out or something.
John C. Dvorak:
They put these guy on these scooters, with the guy in front and the guy in the back. The guy in the middle is like supposedly injured, or passed out. His tongue is hanging out, and it's just - you can see that it's just bull crap. And so they are running these guys back and forth passed this woman. They are bumping into her. And they have all these anti-American things. It's like so obvious that, you know, the military that's running Egypt is, American-trained military.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. And they are using American tear gas canisters.
John C. Dvorak:
Bomb. And so the uh, and so they want these guys out.
John C. Dvorak:
They want all influence out. So they - this is all again an anti-American, a HUGE anti-American uh, position being taken by the public.
Adam Curry:
Well, and rightly so! We're a bunch of a-holes!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. I know, I know. But, it's just like so - I mean this is - not only we didn't plan on, but it's like we've created this situation by encouraging thes uh, this quasi- whatever, this revolution, or this ouster. And it's just a disaster. And that's all I got to say.
Adam Curry:
And id you-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
And it's a phoney-baloney disaster too! Because most of this theatre, it's staged, and it's just like this thing going on in Syria. And we're so helpless. And then, they are reporting on it like it's just, you know, this - you can just see this. I mean, this has been discussed on the Russia Today news, where people say, "Well, we were there," and they show - in fact, we've seen pictures of, I remember even a year ago, they would show a photograph of a area that is stages with a bunch of uh, protesters, and the rest, everybody else is just leading a normal life.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
It's just some of these small,
John C. Dvorak:
So they move the camera in real close so it looks like all Hell's breaking loose.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, they had the .. remember they had the CNN cameras up on the balcony and the producer whooping up the crowd with like, "Three(3) .. Two (2) .. One (1) GO!" The difference between original Tahrir Square and this, you can see night and day. There was .. no one was rioting.. they were just like hanging out, you know, because that was all set up and fed by the propaganda machine of the NGO's, and uh,
Adam Curry:
What is Lucifer's organization... ? DNI? Wasn't that it? Was that what it was called?
John C. Dvorak:
[verbally stumbling]
Adam Curry:
The Democratic National ...?
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, oh! Right! That operation ...
Adam Curry:
Yeah. It's all been set up and now it got out of hand and people are like, "Hey! What did you do?!" Hey, let's transition for a minute here, John
John C. Dvorak:
They screwed the pooch.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, screwed the pooch.
Jingle:
Don't be a denier. The science is IN! SCIENCE!
Jingle:
To the gate! To the gate! To the Climategate!
SFX:
Slide whistle
Adam Curry:
This program, way before we had a red book, was predicting the entrance of a global cooling. A new ice age. And, of course, we were deemed as deniers and anti-global warming kooks,
Adam Curry:
and let me tell you that in the Netherlands, Gitmo Nation Lowlands, temperatures dropped to minus twenty-three degress centigrade (-23 C). Minus twenty-three (-23), that is the coldest it has been in twenty-seven (27) years!
John C. Dvorak:
Wow, that's Alaska weather!
Adam Curry:
Gitmo Nation East,
Clip:
[ Helicopter ] A crisp powdering of snow across the Peak District and as the sun went down, so did the temperatures. In Skegness, the statues seem to freeze. Even in cities, temperatures were expected to fall the statues seem to freeze.
Clip:
Even in cities, temperatures were expected to fall to minus five (-5 C) overnight, minus ten (-10 C) in rural areas. [Indeterminate pounding sound] Seven days of subzero temperatures has already triggered cold weather payments for some, thirty million pounds (30,000,000 GBP) has already been paid out this week, but many this winter are struggling to pay fuel bills, and homeless charities say those sleeping outside face a struggle to survive."
Adam Curry:
Right, and people are dying everywhere, all across Euroland, they're dying because they all bought into this stupidity,
Adam Curry:
"Oh, it's gonna get warmer. It was like "oh, I don't need that parka. I don't need that, it's, uh, who needs that?"
John C. Dvorak:
Well, as we pointed out, or you actually dug it, ah one of us, I don't remember who. The commentary that took place at the beginning of the global warming discussions that, "You in England will never see another, your children will never see another snowflake in their lives.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] "Only in snowglobes and on the Internet!"
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Now it's a routine, I was listening to Sky News and they say, "Well, every year," and there was someone talking to somebody about how cold it is in London. He says, "Well, every year, it snows now."
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but it has been continuous. And now, here's what the experts are saying: In fact, the independent reports. "A growing number of experts believe complex wind patterns are being changed because of melting arctic sea ice that has exposed huge swaths of normally frozen ocean to the atmosphere above."
Adam Curry:
So now it's like, "whoa, whoa, hold on a second. We gotta tell people why this is happening." This is because of global warming that it's getting so cold, quote: "the current weather pattern fits earlier predictions of computer models for how the atmosphere responds to loss of sea ice due to GLOBAL WARMING!" said Professor Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.
Adam Curry:
"The ice freeze areas of the ocean act like a heater as the water is warmer than the arctic air above it. This favors the formation of high-pressure systems near the Barren Sea, which steers colder air into Europe." Well, why didn't you tell us that? If your computer model predicted it, why didn't you tell everyone, "Listen, Global Warming. Hey, bundle up!"
John C. Dvorak:
Hey, their computer model obviously was inaccurate then, because they're the same people that said it would never snow again in England.
Adam Curry:
Yes! Such a huge lie.
John C. Dvorak:
So how can we trust anything that they say? I mean, people always wonder, "Well, you guys are just, you know, it's global warming, only an unsensible person, they don't realize that all the experts agree." They agree on, what, bad calculations?
Jingle:
The science is IN!
John C. Dvorak:
It's just logically weird. That's the thing that's always bothered me. And then all these crazy anomalies keep taking place, and in the early, when you have some little cooling or little snow blizzard, "Well, you're talking about climate, not weather."
John C. Dvorak:
We're talking about climate, not weather."
Adam Curry:
[Giggles]
John C. Dvorak:
But yet, when it warms up in some area during the summertime, then they talk about weather!
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
I mean, it's just like this kind of thing is getting on everyone's nerves.
Adam Curry:
Uh, yeah! And particularly for the Dutch.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, yeah!
Adam Curry:
I mean, we have a lot of family and friends, and people are like, you know, it was funny the first two nights, and now it's like, "uh, okay." Now, the only good thing that's going to come of this is that they will have the Elfstedentocht,
Adam Curry:
which is the, that's the eleven cities natural ice contest. Which every year, when it gets like, there's a little thin crust of ice, they're like, "hey, we might have a Elfstedentocht soon."
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's where they get to ice skate on the water?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and the natural canals, and they skate-
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, and they all ice skate, they do this in Ottawa.
Adam Curry:
But they skate on the, well there's two competitions. The old school guys who basically skate on sticks of wood [laughs]
Adam Curry:
with like a knife blade uh, jammed in there, the old school Friesian ice skates. It's very picturesque and everyone will forget the hardship of dying of cold for a little while. But if only people had listened to this program, they would have a parka, and it'd be nice, and warm and it'd have some stuff to heat up the house...
John C. Dvorak:
And we could get, and they could go get some of those parkas. Who's the guy that made those parkas for us?
Adam Curry:
Oh yeah. Those-
John C. Dvorak:
We need to re-plug them, I finally got mine.
Adam Curry:
It's not a parka-
Adam Curry:
It's not a parka, it's a hand-
John C. Dvorak:
It's a jacket!
Adam Curry:
It's a handmade jacket.
John C. Dvorak:
Heavy-duty jacket.
Adam Curry:
Made in America. It's a beautiful jacket. It's nice and warm, too, it's like a hunting jacket, right? And mine has a concealed carry pocket, which is kinda nice.
John C. Dvorak:
I have a bunch of crazy stuff on mine, too, that I uh added. And they're not expensive. We had to get this guys name and give him another plug.
Adam Curry:
Uh, [sighs]
John C. Dvorak:
It starts with a B, I can't remember off-hand.
Adam Curry:
I feel bad, now, I'll put it in the show notes. I'll find it. And I hate-
John C. Dvorak:
I'll talk to you about it next show.
Adam Curry:
And I hate to say, like, uh,
John C. Dvorak:
I'll talk to you about it next show.
Adam Curry:
And I hate to say, like, you know, "hello, we told you so," but uh, we have been predicting, and they finally did it in a brilliant PR move, I mean just a brilliant move, again with some research, this is how you get something into the news. We've been saying for many years what they are, basically the pharmaceutical industry, the chemical industry, Archer Daniel Midlands Company has been working towards for YEARS,
is equating high-fructose corn syrup with sugar.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
And they finally did it!
John C. Dvorak:
Of course!
Adam Curry:
They finally did it, and you listen to this report, this report is about high-fructose corn syrup. This is the stuff that was originally developed to fatten cattle, so they'd be nice and plump and fat, and it's now in every single product, almost every single product you can imagine, there's almost no real sugar in anything any more.
Adam Curry:
And this research comes out from Nature, so these guys are HIGHLY compromised, you can't believe a SINGLE thing you get from them anymore. And only twice in this report on CNN, where we have two women, because, of course we gotta appeal to the female audience. Only once does she say "processed sugar" but for the rest, it's all pretty much "Sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar." No. It's high-fructose corn syrup, which is NOT the same as sugar.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Is sugar-
Adam Curry:
Sugar!
Clip (Speaker 1):
toxic? Some researchers, wait for it, say it's as bad for you as booze and cigarettes-
Adam Curry:
Whooooo!
Clip (Speaker 1):
And they want sugar regulated! Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen-
Adam Curry:
Let's bring in an expert. [Sighs]
Clip (Speaker 1):
is following this new report. How regulated?
Adam Curry:
Haaaaah!
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
Pretty regulated, I mean these people,
Adam Curry:
[Evil laugh]
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
it's a little bit out there, it's a little bit radical, it's three researchers writing in Nature, which is a very prestigious journal.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Ok
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
And they say, hey, we consider booze and cigarettes a sin, right? So let's have a sin tax on foods with added sugar. We're not talking about apples and stuff like that
Clip (Speaker 1):
[Laughs]
Adam Curry:
[Mocking laugh]
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
but with processed sugar, added sugar, why not have a tax?
Adam Curry:
Processed sugar or added sugar, this is such, John, if we had been consulting for the high-fructose corn syrup industry. WE could have come up with this, this is SO brilliant to just call it sugar and then say "it's really bad" and you could almost wait for it to come around and say, "well, you know, we've got this stuff that is not sugar. It's called high-fructose corn syrup. It's much better for you."
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
And here's the one that really got me.
Clip (Speaker 1):
What?
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
Why not make it so you have to be seventeen (17)-
Clip (Speaker 1):
What?
Clip (Elizabeth Cohen):
to buy soda? So a tax and and age restriction, just like I said, on alcohol and on cigarettes.
Adam Curry:
So this whole thing is set up to get you outraged at the crazy legislation that might be proposed that is not coming from lawmakers, but from a couple of compromised A-holes at Nature Magazine, or The Journal. The whole thing is set up to get you outraged so you can have more OF it.
John C. Dvorak:
That's great.
Adam Curry:
It just blows me away. I mean, you can see this. This segment that has been set up, it's been scripted. They brought in the medical expert. It's like, "Wow!" Eat some sugar. It's not going to kill you.
John C. Dvorak:
So uh, that's a good one. Anyway, the company is Brun's Clothing.
Adam Curry:
Ah Yes, good.
John C. Dvorak:
BrunsClothing.com They are in South Dakota. They make- if you order a jacket from them, which is an inexpensive product.
John C. Dvorak:
I believe uh, you can get one- I've got a black one with the No Agenda logo sewn on, And uh, let's see what is the price of these. I think they're like- they're like less than a hundred dollars [100 USD]. They're handmade to order! In other words, you don't get a fitting you can just-
Adam Curry:
Yeah, my sleeves were made extra long for my - limb-age.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah I had an inch added to my sleeves too. And then you can have special pockets, and there's about three [3], or four [4], or five [5], or six [6] sort of uh, interiors you can have.
Adam Curry:
What's the website, John? What's his website?
Adam Curry:
What's his website?
John C. Dvorak:
Brunsclothing.com
ac: B-r-u-i-n-s?
jd: B-r-u-n-s.
Adam Curry:
B-r-u-n-s, BrunsClothing.com. Yes. Yeah, this is good.
John C. Dvorak:
And uh,
Adam Curry:
You should get that because it's going to getting very, very cold.
John C. Dvorak:
Yes, these will be handy to own. And they can be custom- they essentially are custom, handmade product. And they're nice!
Adam Curry:
It's like five [5] bucks extra for the, you know, longer sleeves or something. It's very good.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it starts at sixty five [65] dollars for hand-made, dynamite jacket
Adam Curry:
Made in America.
John C. Dvorak:
And you can add, it's maybe going to cost you another ten [10] bucks for some add-ons, and it's going to be essentially fit to you. You can probably go there and they'd fit you if you wanted to.
Adam Curry:
No, I got mine and I'm all set
John C. Dvorak:
I got mine and I got a hoodie on mine.
ac: [laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
I didn't even get the most
Jingle:
squirrel
John C. Dvorak:
inside thing
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
And the guys says you'll sweat to death. The one I have I'll, sweat, I have to take it to Washington State because it's like, it's great, it's really warm. Anyway.
Adam Curry:
Authorities consider sugar as empty calories. I mean, you need sugar to live, don't you? Am I wrong?
John C. Dvorak:
You can get sugar, I mean, no, don't need sugar per-say to live at all.
Adam Curry:
Okay.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a processed product
Adam Curry:
Oh
John C. Dvorak:
It's natural occurring
John C. Dvorak:
uh, all carbohydrates at a complex sugar, so anything you eat..
Adam Curry:
Hold on a second, let's bring in our medical expert here for a second, John C. Dvorak MD.
Jingle:
swoosh/fart
Adam Curry:
Do we need sugar in our diet?
John C. Dvorak:
We don't need refined sugar, no.
Adam Curry:
Will it kill me?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, like for example, let's say we had a tanker truck full of hundred [100] pound bags of sugar, and you were standing underneath it and the bags all bounced off 'ya, you'd probably die, yeah.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Ok, thank you
Jingle:
stinger
Adam Curry:
Super Bowl coming up this weekend. [laughs] It is just crazy. So, I'm, I heard from multiple sources. This is very funny. We didn't play the clip, nor will I. Remember when President Obama did Al Green at the Apollo?
John C. Dvorak:
Ugh
Adam Curry:
and he started singing, and of course because, we didn't have enough X-Factor on television already.
Adam Curry:
Apparently, this all started several weeks ago. And he had a sit-down with David Pluph. Pluf, Plouffe, what's his name? Plouffe? Plouffe? And he said 'hey man, we're not cool any more. Remember in two thousand eight [2008] we were the shit. We were really cool. We gotta be cool. Uh, I wanna sing at the Apollo.' They brought in a vocal coach to help him learn how to sing kinda like Al Green. They brought in a vocal coach.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, I didn't know THAT part
Adam Curry:
Yes, yeah they brought in a coach.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh you got me on that. That's the information of the day.
Adam Curry:
He practised for..
John C. Dvorak:
That is ridiculous, the President's got nothing better to do?
Adam Curry:
No
John C. Dvorak:
And you're telling me that they would bring in a v.., and waste his time because he's got nothing better to do?
Adam Curry:
He WANTED it!
John C. Dvorak:
One line from an Al Green song?
Adam Curry:
He wanted it. Now, they had forty [40] to fifty [50] people in the audience who were instructed to whoop it up. And they had a whole team of techno experts who immediately took the video.
Adam Curry:
And if you look at the video anywhere it's embedded, you will see the word "cool." 'Cause that was the whole point. He wants to be cool again. That was what HIS request to HIS strategists, 'I want to be cool again.' And go look anywhere, you'll see in the comments 'wow, our President is so cool, he's cool.' It was all a setup. Vocal coach, the techno experts, to go spam forums and everything, and comments. 'Oh he's cool, he's cool.'
Adam Curry:
And then they actually, and if you listen to the video, and there's a tell in this too. This is no good for the show, because we're not video. There's a tell. The minute he goes into a pre-rehearsed thing, he get's real, he get's completely quiet, he'll look down and then he goes into it. And if you watch the video, and I encourage you to do it, you'll see him, like, 'Well, well, Al Green, blah blah.' And then, he closes down. Focuses. And then he launches into it.
Adam Curry:
Because he's an actor. It's really, really, REALLY, really, disturbing. So now, we can look for uh, this tell moment when he's about to do something pre- previously rehearsed. IS when he, he- you can see him getting his center, focussing down and then he does whatever he's supposed to do, he does. That's his tell.
John C. Dvorak:
hm.
Adam Curry:
You can watch it now. You can see it happening.
John C. Dvorak:
Interesting. That's a good one. That's a good find.
Jingle:
donating to No Agenda jingle
Adam Curry:
[with music] Hit me now!
John C. Dvorak:
We have a bunch of donors this week that helped us out. I want to thank them, starting with Amrie Arorive Drorie, who runs a genome compiler company.
Adam Curry:
hmm
John C. Dvorak:
And he gave us a hundred and fifty dollars [150 USD]. Actually, he gave the hundred fifty dollars [150 USD] to me at the TWiT studios.
Adam Curry:
Oh really. Oh that's nice
John C. Dvorak:
Into the bank it goes. He needs a de-douching.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
John C. Dvorak:
That's all he says here, "I need a de-douching."
Adam Curry:
Cool.
John C. Dvorak:
And he gave me his card. And I'll look into the company, sounds interesting. Anonymous, Staten Island, New York a hundred and fifty dollars [150 USD]. "Please keep my identity anonymous if you read this on the show. Your threat of one show per week,
John C. Dvorak:
this is my second donation to date, worked! Now that the weather is getting warmer, I need two shows per week to play a game I call No Agenda Show Roulette.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
It's a game I play that keeps my exercise program of bicycle riding interesting. I'll explain in a follow-up letter." We'll check it out. Peter Pinjacker, uh a hundred eleven [111] dollars and eleven [11] cents
Adam Curry:
Excuse me, Pieknocker
John C. Dvorak:
Pieknocker
Adam Curry:
Oh, not only 'please don't mention my last name, but please..'
John C. Dvorak:
But, that's not his last name, that's the town he's in
Adam Curry:
Oh, he's from Pieknocker. Oh good. Ok.
Adam Curry:
Thanks. It's like, are we accentuating his last name here? No.
John C. Dvorak:
Pienacker.
Adam Curry:
um huh
John C. Dvorak:
He's in the Philippines, actually on vacation, where his government is fighting the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. Which is MILF.
Adam Curry:
[laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
Could really use some getting laid karma since with this MILF War, this vacation's going nowhere.
Adam Curry:
[laughing] All right. MILF Wars!
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
I think I have a title for our new video: [deep voice] MILF Wars!
John C. Dvorak:
Matthew Nichols in Brooklyn, New York.
Adam Curry:
[deep voice] They're wild, and one's a cougar
John C. Dvorak:
"Keep up the great work. I hope everyone starts chipping in to help you guys do two [2] shows a week. Thank you for making this the Best Podcast in the Universe." That's Matthew Nichols. Michael Slobegian or Slobeggin. I think it's Slobegian
Adam Curry:
I think it's Slowbeggin. Well,
John C. Dvorak:
Could be, he's in Whiterock, BC. A hundred dollars [100 USD]. Brian Watson, Sir Brian Watson to you, who is in Raleigh, North Carolina a hundred dollars [100 USD]. "Hello from Gitmo Nation First In Drone Flight.
John C. Dvorak:
Need seven [7] days of job karma, please."
Adam Curry:
Absolutely, it lasts for seven [7] days
Jingle:
you've got karma
Adam Curry:
Very good
John C. Dvorak:
Nicholas Stowe in Austin, Texas. Right up the street from you as a matter of fact. A hundred dollars [100 USD].
Adam Curry:
That's right
John C. Dvorak:
"In The Morning Crackpot and Buzzkill. I've been a five dollar [5 USD] per month donor for awhile, but I've recently been feeling more and more like a boner. I switched to the eleven [11] eleven [11] monthly plan and," this is the first of ten [10] one hundred [100] donate. Of ten [10] one hundred [100] the first..[clears throad] hello! "This is the first of ten [10] one hundred dollar [100 USD] donations toward my knigthood.
Adam Curry:
There's Austin. Thank you, Austin
John C. Dvorak:
Thank you, Austin. But, you also thank Princeton, Ontario. Chris Stewart, ninety eight dollars [98 USD]
Adam Curry:
Thank you Princeton, Ontario.
John C. Dvorak:
Joseph Gazz, in Wilmington, Deleware. Miss Micky, put on an engagement ring gift for you and Adam.
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
And he sends seventy five dollars [75 USD] to contribute to the cause
Adam Curry:
No, that's too much!
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Miss Micky is going to wear a No Agenda knight ring.
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. What do you think I gave her?
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
Hello.
John C. Dvorak:
Anthony Cabelli in Bismarck, North Dakota "I need some Rubik Cube karma for Charlie."
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
All right
John C. Dvorak:
Not quite sure what that's about. Michael Miller, Sir Michael Miller here over here in Tiburon I can wave he can see me actually. Sixty-seven dollars (67 USD) another "Hey Citizen!" karma donation. "The shit really works."
Jingle:
Hey, citizen!
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. We know it really works.
John C. Dvorak:
"Value for value, slaves," he says, "donate or you won't have a show."
Adam Curry:
That's right.
John C. Dvorak:
Christopher Collins, Tokyo. Sixty six sixty six. [USD 66.66] "Citizen John and Citizen Adam, in the morning. This is my third contribution to the best podcast in the universe. I urge all citizens to pony up and keep you guys on the air twice a week."
Martin Anderson in Copenhagen. Sixty six sixty six. (USD 66.66) "Love your model. Wish more used it. Keep ploughing through."
Adam Curry:
Thank you.
John C. Dvorak:
"Enjoy," he says.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, Amir Makar, or Makarr, Maka. Makar. In Mountsville, Pennsylvania. Sixty dollars [USD 60]. "Hey Citizens, this is Morrow, originally from Gitmo Nation Tahrir Square..."
Adam Curry:
[in accent] Tahrir!
John C. Dvorak:
"for all the hard work you put into the show. Being a former slave, I clearly see the writing on the wall. We are sliding towards a dictatorship. Exactly what happened in Egypt post nineteen ninety's terrorist attacks, executive branch declared emergency laws, seized all power and droned anyone who didn't agree with them."
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Is he talking about America?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. So unless the majority of Americans wake up and realize that we must not sacrifice liberty for security, we're all indeed screwed!"
Adam Curry:
Uh, excuse me, that's "security for American security," if you're Erin Burnett. OK. Get it right.
John C. Dvorak:
"I'll probably be the first in line since I look like a terrorist, even though I'm a Coptic Christian. I always--"
Adam Curry:
[laughing] Hey, you with the beard. Come over here.
John C. Dvorak:
"I always get randomly searched in airports. Sorry for the small donation, my donation monies are split between you guys and Ron Paul.
Adam Curry:
No, we appreciate, we certainly appreciate the help, no matter how big or small. It's all beautiful.
John C. Dvorak:
Uhh.
Uh, sorry, Joseph Cotran, in Monroeville, North, uh, North-- New Jersey. Fifty six seventy eight (USD 56.78). "Donations are down, no more hookers and blow for Adam. It's a little something for a six pack of beer and a bag of pork rinds."
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] In my truck.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Uhh
Adam Curry:
Pork rinds!
John C. Dvorak:
Drew Larson, Green Bay Wisconsin. Fifty five fifty five (USD 55.55). "Donated a while back for job karma."
John C. Dvorak:
"Karma went out on Sunday and the following day I had a job interview. The interview went well but I wasn't holding out much hope. But lo and behold, an hour after the interview, I got a call from the company with an offer."
Adam Curry:
Uhuh.
John C. Dvorak:
"The karma does work and that alone should be enough reason to support No Agenda. Today I'm donating because my father Dale Larson lost his job recently, corporate bullcrap, and I'd like to ask for some karma for him."
Jingle:
[Bell ringing]
Adam Curry:
Absolutely. Here is some corporate bullcrap get-a-job karma.
Jingle:
[Female voice] You've got karma.
[Sound of harp playing]
Adam Curry:
For Dale.
John C. Dvorak:
John Martinez in Gilroy California. Fifty five fifty five (USD 55.55), which is interesting. "I have several monthly subscriptions, but I'm donating a larger amount because the boners haven't. I'd hate for all the show to go once a week format, it is after all the greatest podcast in the universe. John, A.K.A. Garlic Belch, soon to be knight."
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Garlic Belch, I guess, that's not--
Adam Curry:
I can't wait
John C. Dvorak:
Unpleasant.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Andrew Stuckey [phonetic] in Madison Wisconsin, fifty five fifty five (USD 55.55). "Having not donated before, I can no longer stand the guilt. I humbly request a de-douching."
Jingle:
[Female voice] You've been de-douched.
Adam Curry:
Good on you, Andrew.
John C. Dvorak:
A Matthew, mmmm, J. Milligan in Sparks, Nevada. A nice place, just outside of Reno. Fifty five ten (USD 55.10). "Hey Citizens, this is to give Adam and John faith that there are still working serfs searching toward knighthood. Please give a shot of karma to my brother, Jake for being an alternate delegate."
Adam Curry:
Oh, hold on a second
John C. Dvorak:
"My sister in law--"
Adam Curry:
Hold on, hold on, let's just give that for a second. Here we go.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Well they're also, the sister in law Kirsten,
John C. Dvorak:
and himself, they're delegates for Ron Paul in Nevada. "We need the help to make it all the way. Also give a MILF callout to my smoking hot wife Sarah."
Adam Curry:
"She's the reason I can donate"
Really? Well, OK, I don't know what she does, but
Jingle:
MILF. That's one mother I'd like to [toot toot]
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
Maybe it's the reason, well I don't know. Cool!
John C. Dvorak:
Pariah wear,
Adam Curry:
Send pictures, send pictures.
John C. Dvorak:
Send pictures, yeah, send them to Adam. Send 'em to me! Pariah Wear. Raleigh, North Carolina. Fifty five ten (USD 55.10).
John C. Dvorak:
Double nickels on the dime. "Looking for karma for my wife who was not expected to live after suffering a large number of strokes last February and April. She continues to heal but is currently a quadri-- quadriplegic--"
This is a terrible story.
"Also, people can help me by supporting her by buying an iOS game bib-a-licious, pronounced Biblelicious." Look for Biblelicious. iOS. It's on your thing. "Thank you for your show. Sometimes I wonder if you actually believe the things you say"
Well, we do, mostly. Give--
Adam Curry:
We do.
John C. Dvorak:
Give her a karma.
Adam Curry:
[Sigh] Man, I sure hope,
Adam Curry:
if karma ever needed to work, this is the moment for it.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
Well, we do believe the things we say.
Adam Curry:
Absolutely.
John C. Dvorak:
Adam says something, I say he's full of crap. We both believe this.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
Robert Perron, Kenmore Washington. Double nickels on the dime. Ah, "first time donor, I'll start with a citizen dedouching."
Adam Curry:
Mm-kay
Jingle:
Hey Citizen
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
John C. Dvorak:
"Thank you for both for being there for us. I plan to donate two percent of my personal GDP this year."
John C. Dvorak:
"This is a tithe."
That's nice.
"So by December, I hope I will get to the Roundtable. P.S. Fifty five equals my age this year and I encourage all listeners to donate at least an amount equal to their age."
Alright.
Bruce Wilkie in Puyallup, Washington. Ah, fif-- double nickels on the dime (USD 55.10) with him. "I love the show and I've been a long--"
Poowallup, by the way, is, the way it's pronounced.
"I love the show and it's been a long time listener-boner-one time boner -- anyway."
John C. Dvorak:
"Thanks to my dad. Please call him out as a boner for never donating"
I think douchebag's what we're talking about.
Adam Curry:
Well should we do that?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, hit it.
Jingle:
Douchebag!
John C. Dvorak:
"John, I look forward to a foodie show from you sometime in the future. Adam, I miss the long in the morning rundown that you used to do. Feet in the stirrups, wings in the air, et cetera, et cetera. Could I get one more of those for old times sake?"
We'll do that on the next show.
"And can I get a shoutout on the tweeters, android bruce. Keep up the good work."
He's in Seattle, he says.
Stephen Ricoh, in Winston-Salem, double nickels on the dime (USD55.10).
John C. Dvorak:
FMP Computers in Gilbert Arizona. Double nickels on the dime. "Listening since episode one. Ah, like to mention the unclaimed state property website,"
Which I brought up on a recent show.
"I picked up some money and figured I could pass on some of it to the people who informed me of the whole thing."
Adam Curry:
Hey. You know, I still haven't done that.
You know, that's cool.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, you should. There's tonnes of--. You'll have thousands of dollars ditched somewhere.
Adam Curry:
Thousands?
John C. Dvorak:
Yes.
Adam Curry:
But, where does that come from?
John C. Dvorak:
I have about,
Adam Curry:
But where does it come from? It just-- like,--
Adam Curry:
they're like oh, I dropped a thousand dollar bill.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, well I'll tell you where some of it comes from. It's all these douchebag banks. Let me give you an example. I had a bank account at the San Francisco Credit Union when I was working for the government. I wanted to keep the money in there. So, I had about twelve hundred bucks (USD 1200) in there. So I leave it in there, I don't pay much attention to it, so I decide I'm going to go, either reestablish the account, or I'm gonna get--
I go there, the money's gone!
Adam Curry:
What!
John C. Dvorak:
Where's the twelve hundred bucks (USD 1200)? Oh, we sent it to the state.
Adam Curry:
Really?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, if you keep anything inactive for more than like six months,
John C. Dvorak:
Boom, the state gets it, and collects interest on it.
Adam Curry:
What!?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's in there. I mean, the state had it listed. And so I just had the state send me a check.
Yes.
Adam Curry:
That is crazy. I'm afraid to do it because with me they say, "oh, undisclosed". Either it's so huge I'm gonna be a multimillionaire, or they're gonna come and "yeah, we've been looking for you..."
John C. Dvorak:
It could be a bunch of stock that you don't know you own. "Oh, what are we going to do with this Adam Curry's stock?" "Send it to the state"
Adam Curry:
Really?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, my mom had some stock.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you told me, you told me.
But she didn't want to, she was wary too, she didn't want to, like, get--
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it was only worth about fifty bucks (USD 50).
Adam Curry:
Anyway, everyone else should definitely try that.
John C. Dvorak:
Scott Olsen in San Diego, California. Double nickels on the dime. He needs a shot of karma.
Adam Curry:
OK, here we go.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Ben McQuillin in Belfast, ah, double nickels on the dime.
Wendell Smith in Windham, Minnesota. Double nickels on the dime.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, Chris Ball in Lansing, Michigan. Double nickels on the dime.
Johnathan Rucks, in Alfretta, Georgia. Five two dot nine zero. [52.90 USD] "Five twenty-nine is the number I continually come across. It seems to be good luck, so here's five two nine zero to grant J.C. and Adam some karma for their donations to pick up. My karma will be automatic for my transition from a no-donor boner to a donor with a boner."
Adam Curry:
[Chuckle]
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
There it is. Boner.
John C. Dvorak:
These guys. Puns!
Adrian Cooper in Durham, North Carolina. Fifty two fourteen (USD 52.14). "Donating fifty dollars and two fourteen for the love on behalf of my wife, Amy, because we all know donating is loving, uh, Amy recently had a job interview so we're looking for a shot of karma. I asked her if she had a message for the show and she said, "thank you". Although I've donated before, I think I need a de-douching"
John C. Dvorak:
"because I've been waiting since November to get into an elite group of assassins. I'm not sure what's holding me back."
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] OK, hey, whatever you-- whatever floats your boat.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
Jingle:
You've got karma
John C. Dvorak:
You know, it appears as if you will not allow him on the No Agenda News Network.
Adam Curry:
What?
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Anyone can be on-- if you go to the No Agenda News Network,
John C. Dvorak:
You have to get qualified to do something
Adam Curry:
No, you don't. Let me say something. You go to No Agenda News Network dot com and then,
Adam Curry:
and then, right there, on the page, I'm going to tell you exactly where it is, umm, you go down to the,
SFX:
Typing sounds
Adam Curry:
hold on, no...agenda...news network...
You can make, if you have an RSS feed, so if you have a blog anywhere that makes an RSS feed. Anywhere. Uhh, oh, maybe it's not on there any--
Oh yeah, here, at the top. Right at the top in the menu, it says, "Add a feed" And you click on that, and it brings up a dialog box and it says "enter the URL of a feed"
Adam Curry:
you'd like to add to the No Agenda News Network community. You enter it in, automatically everything you post is going to be on the No Agenda News Network. It's a beautiful system. It's open. Go do it.
John C. Dvorak:
Sounds complicated.
Adam Curry:
Bah.
John C. Dvorak:
Patrick McCann of Carnation, Washington. Ah, fifty one fifty one (USD 51.51). "A MILF and karma shout out to my wife Shelley. Also a karma for all the douchebags who will be donating their tax returns."
Jingle:
MILF. That's one mother I'd like to [toot toot]
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Podcast for Peace, in Alamo, California. Fifty one fifty (USD 51.50). "I donate, therefore I am. Why? Because. Why? Because job karma works. Thank you for the no agenda nation for keeping this consultant in ducats."
David Hazi in Wilmington North Carolina. Fifty oh five. "I'm a US Army veteran. Did psychological operations. I would like to request a 'hey citizen-karma' for my buddy Scotty Sing-Foo for finally getting me to listen to the program."
Adam Curry:
OK, here we go, ah,
Jingle:
Hey Citizen
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
"By the way, if you guys want more donations, you need to go on facebook. My entire facebook feed is your show."
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
"Before you do it."
Adam Curry:
Well maybe we can get Zynga money, or something. We could, which we could buy some pigs.
John C. Dvorak:
And Bruns Clothing, which we just mentioned. They're in Watertown, South Dakota. Fifty dollars (USD 50.00). "Latest kickback from the No Agenda jacket embroidery."
Adam Curry:
Oh, it was a setup. You knew that this was coming.
John C. Dvorak:
"Also, I've started kicking two dollars per sale from the jackets or vests"
John C. Dvorak:
"that don't get embroidered if they tell me they heard about us on No Agenda."
Huh.
"Lastly, I'd like a bit of karma for my new baby boy human resource Robert Lee Bruns, born on February, the fourth (2012-02-04)."
Adam Curry:
Ah, brand new baby boy. Congratulations.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
Little human resource, and we say
Jingle:
Hey citizen.
John C. Dvorak:
Donald Gauguin. I think. Go-gooen, Go-gwen. Gogwen. What do you think?
Adam Curry:
Go-gwen.
John C. Dvorak:
Westminister, Massachusnutts. "I know the times are hard for almost everyone. Some of us do what we can, so hang in there."
Benjamin in Westerville, Ohio. Fifty dollars. "In the morning to you both from Gitmo Nation Buckeye, here in Columbus, Ohio. I know donations have been down but I think I may have a solution. Put a simple No Agenda app in the app store and have an in-app purchase available."
Adam Curry:
No, no, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. I'm just telling you, we would be cut by seventy five percent.
Adam Curry:
This is the only way it works. This is the model. And what I like--
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
This is going to take a second John, what I like about it, is that we're very honest. If you see the value for two shows, we're there. If not, we're not there. We'll do one show. It's done. It's, everyone got the message, perfect. So it worked, thank you very much.
John C. Dvorak:
Richo-- Richard Colangelo, in Litchfield, Connecticut. Fifty dollars.
Matthew Lakes in Fairport, New York. Fifty dollars.
John C. Dvorak:
John Haller in Missoula, Montana. Fifty dollars. "I need you twice a week to keep sane! Don't change! Ah, on PBS the pitch was that you are joining a community with your donations. Perhaps that can be an inducement."
Well that's, we've said this before.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
Good old Dame Tanya in New York, New York. "Very troubled by the drop-off in donations and decided to increase my monthly giving level to the Best Podcast in the Universe. Giving in love."
ac: Hold on a second.
Jingle:
MILF. That's one mother I'd like to [toot toot]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I've met Dame Tanya.
John C. Dvorak:
Michael Sigenthaller, or -taller. Uh. Thomasville, Georgia. Fifty dollars. Sigenthaller, "now in Phoenix, formerly of dirty south and sand burdue. Give yourself a karma shot. Keep your heads up."
Jingle:
You've got karma.
John C. Dvorak:
Majestic RV Rental of Fredericksburg Virginia. Fifty dollars.
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
What?
Adam Curry:
Well, didn't we pick up our RV in Frederickburg?
Adam Curry:
I don't if-- is this--
John C. Dvorak:
Majestic?
Adam Curry:
No, we didn't get it from Majestic. I think, interesting. Alright.
John C. Dvorak:
Maybe you should have.
Anonymous, Putney, Vermont.
No, you got it from a friend.
Adam Curry:
No, we got it from the Baroness Maggie Vincent.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Maggie. Good old Maggie.
Ahh, Putney, Vermont. Fifty dollars. "Keep up the good work. Keep teaching us how to read between the lines."
Ulrich Hansen in Copenhagen, I believe. Fifty dollars.
John C. Dvorak:
"Why? Because the world needs two shows a week."
Adam Curry:
[Chuckling]
John C. Dvorak:
Sir Adam Colb in Manasha, Wisconsin. Fifty dollars.
Christopher Grippe, or Greep, or Gripe. No, it's Grippe. Edmonton. Another Edmontonian! Fifty dollars. That's great. I like Edmonton by the way, it's a very nice town, was just there a year or two ago.
"Hail from Canada. I have one request, could you both look into the Keystone XL pipeline and both your thoughts on it."
Adam Curry:
We've done that.
John C. Dvorak:
I think so. We don't have any thoughts on it.
Adam Curry:
We want your dirty shit.
John C. Dvorak:
Uhh
Adam Curry:
Send it on down.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, the horrible crude that's loaded with sulfur.
Adam Curry:
Send it on down.
John C. Dvorak:
Ah, David Kroll of Hamilton, Ohio. Fifty dollars. Long time boner, first time donor, need a thorough de-douching.
Adam Curry:
M-hm.
Jingle:
You've been de-douched.
John C. Dvorak:
I don't remember saying that John McCain would win, maybe I did. He did. He won the Republican nomination. He also needs a karma shot, "applying for a gig at an awesome company"
John C. Dvorak:
"and the deal I made with myself was that I hadn't gotten a ding letter before payday, I'd try earning some karma.
Adam Curry:
Here you go, get your job karma. Let us know.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
It usually works.
John C. Dvorak:
A hundred and fifty dollars [150 USD] from Thomas Lees in Halifax, Anthony Hoisner in Madison Wisconsin, Greg von Mullum in Bakersfield. Also from Mike Nok-ohhh-- Mike Nokolichuk, Nikolaich-- Nikolaichuk, Nikolaichuk.
John C. Dvorak:
Nikolaichuk. In the Paris of Canada, Saskatoon. Fifty dollars. "Please read the email sent"
Well, we don't have it handy. But uh,
"mention more Canadian news. We're getting bent over here too. Our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper just announced he's going to change our pension laws."
Yeah, we know about that.
Adam Curry:
And call out Sean Mooney as a douchebag.
Jingle:
Douchebag.
John C. Dvorak:
And, he'll, ah, something else he's going to do. I can't quite get the sentence structure.
John C. Dvorak:
Umm. And finally, Frank Rowe. Sir Frank Rowe to you.
Adam Curry:
Oh, Sir Gitmo.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, Sir Gitmo. Paris, Florida. Fifty dollars [50 USD]. "Please send karma as the universe hates me."
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] It's not true, Frank! The universe does not hate you!
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
No, the universe loves you, man.
John C. Dvorak:
And finally, a callout to boners to become donors.
Adam Curry:
So, um, I just want to say, that, um, obviously we have, um, excessively long segment. The whole idea here is to spread it out. So let's get back to where we were before the start of the year and everything will all be good.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah and if people want to sneak in a quick executive producer, I'm guaranteeing on Thursday you'll be able to do it effortlessly.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, that's usually how it works. Before we--
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, this this this feast-or-famine thing is annoying.
John C. Dvorak:
And I'm sure a lot of people, and we did have one guy, wrote a nasty note to us complaining about the fact that we do, um, birthday shout-outs, he thinks it's a waste of time, and he doesn't like the thank-you's that we give personally to each individual who gives us fifty dollars or more.
Adam Curry:
Oh, well would you like to hear commercials? Let me get the, I can, do you want me to find the Old Navy commercial? Maybe I should play that, John, ah--
John C. Dvorak:
No, don't play that again, please.
Adam Curry:
No, no. You haven't heard this one. It's the Old Navy commercial.
John C. Dvorak:
Is this the one you did?
John C. Dvorak:
Is it another one you did.
Adam Curry:
Yeah!
John C. Dvorak:
[Groans]
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] Let's see if people like that better. Hold on a sec. Anyway, make your point while I look it up.
John C. Dvorak:
[Slide whistling] Ah, we have, ah, we actually find that these segments to be interesting because they do bring out some anecdotal information. We also get to communicate kind of directly with the donors, and ah, we had a lot of people also donated anonymously. And, but we don't-- I don't know, I don't mind it.
John C. Dvorak:
And I think it is padding to some. You can fast forward through it.
Adam Curry:
Yes.
John C. Dvorak:
If you really hate it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
But there's always a tidbit or two and sometimes we have a restaurant review and we love it.
Adam Curry:
Well let me see. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather hear stuff about, you know, people loving their wives and that they're MILFs and that they're happy and that they love karma, or
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
This is Adam Curry for Kelloggs Frosted Flakes.
Adam Curry:
Or would you rather hear this?
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Clip (Adam Curry Audition):
Kelloggs Frosted Flakes gives you flakes for fuel and frosting for fun as part of a balanced breakfast. Because when you love the game, it shows.
Adam Curry:
Now. Another gig I didn't get.
John C. Dvorak:
[Laughing]
Adam Curry:
[Laughing] I think
John C. Dvorak:
I think the insincerity in your voice had something to do with it.
Adam Curry:
I know! I know and I can't sell it. But, the guy who got the gig, if you want us to play that on the show, fine. [Laughing]
two-quick-mentions-ah-mike-slobogan-his-email:
"Adam and John, greetings from Gitmo Nation Lotusland, west of,"
Adam Curry:
"west coast of Canada, treehuggers and potheads. Today I sent in the first of many donations to the No Agenda Show. I've been listening for a few months without donating, and that's just not cool. Please give me a de-douching and fire some karma. I think that even people who aren't No Agenda listeners have an unconscious awareness that something is very wrong with the world. Some people buy pills to suppress their anxiety; I think the money is better spent right here to bring the problem to the forefront and earn all of us some relief."
And I think that is a very good point.
Don't buy meds, listen to the show.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
And support the show.
Adam Curry:
And then this just broke my heart. Seageek. "In the morning Adam and John. Use this story on the show if you want. I have cerebral palsy and use a wheelchair. I'm on a disability pension of eight hundred and twenty eight dollars [828 USD] a month, but I just donated twenty five dollars to the Best Podcast in the Universe. If I can donate, anyone can."
And here's some karma for ya.
Jingle:
You've got karma.
Adam Curry:
And, as a special option, of course uh, we have Valentine's Day coming up, so two hundred and fourteen, two fourteen,
Adam Curry:
is your magic number, because nothing says "I love you" more than a donation to the No Agenda Show.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. And you can do it in somebody else's name. And I do have Duane Melançon's, ah, little note here. I want to, just a couple things he's ah, the guy in Tiggerd, Oregon, who's an executive producer. This completes his fourth knighthood, which is worth mentioning. He needs to get a ring resized.
"Sorry to hear the donations have been soft. Don't want to see you guys have to go to one show a week," that's for sure.
Adam Curry:
M-hm
John C. Dvorak:
"One note about the last show, you were commenting that a weatherman was"
John C. Dvorak:
"the expert on a meteor sighting in Texas. Who better than a meteor-
Adam Curry:
[Laughing]
John C. Dvorak:
"-ologist to cover it?"
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Good point.
John C. Dvorak:
I went to all the trouble to get that note for that, that gag. It's a pun!
Jingle:
Dvorak dot org slash n a.
Jingle:
It's your birthday birthday.
On No Agenda.
Adam Curry:
Only one to do today. Sir Paul Snyder congratulates himself. He celebrated his birthday yesterday,
Adam Curry:
February fourth two thousand twelve [2012-02-04]. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
Jingle:
It's your birthday yeah.
Adam Curry:
And, because of all the toppage everyone put in, we have a couple of knighthoods to hand out, which is very nice. So I've got my blade handy, John if you could take it away from, ah,
John C. Dvorak:
[Inaudible]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, you got it there. Perfect.
Jingle:
[Music]
Adam Curry:
Matthew Becker, Austin Voss, and David C. Pugh, please step forward. Kneel! It is time to receive your well-deserved knighthoods and enter the elusive clubs
Adam Curry:
known as the Knights of the No Agenda Round Table for your support of the best podcast in the universe in the amount of up to one thousand dollars or more. Rings forthcoming! And I hereby pronounce thee Sir Matthew Becker
SFX:
Sword noise.
Adam Curry:
Sir Austin Voss
SFX:
Sword noise.
Adam Curry:
And Sir David C. Pugh.
You got 'em, they're over here, you know you want 'em. The hookers and blow, the rent boys and chardonnay, and the hot pants and booze. Right here, and thank you so much.
John C. Dvorak:
And don't forget you can go to also channel dvorak dot com slash n a, no agenda show dot com and no agenda nation dot com and there's donation buttons there.
John C. Dvorak:
http://channeldvorak.com/na http://noagendanation.com and there's donation buttons there and we'd appreciate all the help we can get.
So Mimi writes in, "The reason I'm not listening to the show live today is because of the screwed-up No Agenda Global Radio that has crap on it like this." PlayerRadioLoyalty.com, do you know anything about this?
Adam Curry:
No.
John C. Dvorak:
What's the No Agenda Global Radio? Where does she even find this?
Adam Curry:
I think GitmoSlave and Mr. Oil were working on changing and Sir Paul were gonna-
look, I don't run the stream. We have no time for that. I think they changed it from noagendastream.com, you can still use that address but then it goes to nagradio.com and they had a whole new website. Did it not work?
John C. Dvorak:
She says the worst part of this global radio is "there are typos all over the place, I actually resent the ads that show up with Radio Loyalty."
Adam Curry:
What is that?
John C. Dvorak:
"They are distracting, creepy, and if you guys are supposedly avoiding ads, not going corporate, someone better shake the crap out of Mr. Oil and give him the news."
Adam Curry:
Let me see. nagradio, is that Mimi your Mimi, our Mimi? Our lovely Mimi?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's THE Mimi.
Adam Curry:
No Agenda Global Radio, well it has the stream player on it. Does that not work?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, I don't know, she says-
SFX:
[Stream plays]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, it works.
John C. Dvorak:
Sounds good. [Laughs] Sounds pretty good.
Adam Curry:
Yes, it sounds good to me. Mimi, is she using Explorer 4?
John C. Dvorak:
I have no idea.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] I don't see any ads, I see Support Us, Player, it looks pretty good, actually. nagradio.com. Looks good to me!
John C. Dvorak:
[Typing] N A G radio
Adam Curry:
It's got all of the No Agenda News Network articles... this looks good!
John C. Dvorak:
She was grousing at me yesterday about the show having 'too much political news.'
Adam Curry:
Oh, ok, well Mimi, pay attention, do you hear this, John?
SFX:
[Rubbing a knife over the microphone]
Adam Curry:
That is a knife. And I am using this knife to cut, hold on-
SFX:
[Thunk, thunk]
Adam Curry:
Into an heirloom tomato at the Austin-
John C. Dvorak:
It's out of season!
Adam Curry:
It's the last ones. An Heirloom, it looks like a mutant ball from HELL. It looks like it has cancer, which of course is the way a tomato is supposed to look. But these tomatoes, which by the way saving the seeds,
I can plant them and I can grow my own. Listen to this, John.
SFX:
[Bite, chew]
Adam Curry:
Mmmmm! That is an outstanding product. Aw!
John C. Dvorak:
It's gotta be Hot House!
Adam Curry:
No, it's grown indoors. It is. But it is a complete, it's like, of course, a Tomato IS a fruit. I had an argument with Miss Micky about that yesterday, but I'm actually eating it like a fruit. That's how lovely this OUTSTANDING product is.
If you are in Austin, on Saturday, go to Fourth, Fourth Street, go to the Austin Sustainable Living Market. The guy might have a few more next week. But they are OUTSTANDING as a food product.
John C. Dvorak:
Hm.
Adam Curry:
Mmm!
John C. Dvorak:
I don't see any ads, I don't know what she's talking about!
Adam Curry:
Mmm!
John C. Dvorak:
I don't see typos, I don't see ads that, they talk about no commercials, she must be, have been, there must be a bootlegged site that she's landed on.
Adam Curry:
Maybe you need to service her!
John C. Dvorak:
Heh.
Adam Curry:
[Laughs]
John C. Dvorak:
It's big, but it's not that long!
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] Whoa! Touchy subject, there.
John C. Dvorak:
She's in Washington (State)
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but, so, get a train, man, go up there and uh, do your business.
SFX:
[Dramatic transition]
Adam Curry:
That concludes our servicing and OUTSTANDING food product segment.
John C. Dvorak:
Alright, so I think-
Did we do our? Yeah, ok, I think we're all caught up.
Adam Curry:
Yup, oh my God, that tomato is SO delicious, I mean, you see a tomato, that's not a real tomato, this is a tomato. One that looks call kooky. It looks, it really looks, I know if I showed it to my daughter, and said here's a tomato, she'd be like "Uh, I don't want to eat that tomato, it looks weird, like-
John C. Dvorak:
It's got bumps and lumps!
Adam Curry:
Oh no, this has like tumors!
John C. Dvorak:
Oh it's got the bumpy lumpy tumors.
Adam Curry:
Mmm! Mmm! Mmm! I just devoured it, I had Miss Micky bring it down.
John C. Dvorak:
Did you put salt on it?
Adam Curry:
No, no, no, no, no, you can do that but-
John C. Dvorak:
You should put salt on it.
Adam Curry:
No, no, no, these are so sweet, they're so lovely and luscious, it's just orgasmic, I tell you! Um, okay, so a couple things on the techno-expert front that we need to talk about because they are really ramping it up here and in Gitmo Nation East. The first thing is this totally bogus, the whole thing, anonymous, anonymous, by the way, supports this show. We had five members-
Adam Curry:
the whole thing, anonymous, anonymous, by the way, supports this show. We had five members of anonymous support this show, which is, just so you know, yeah, there's a movement called anonymous, and yes, there's people who do things, but it's a beautiful name, that's why they love to propagate it, because anonymous can easily be Hillary "Lucifer" Clinton's Techno-Experts doing crap.
John C. Dvorak:
Saying they're anonymous.
Adam Curry:
Right. And then-
John C. Dvorak:
We don't know. There's no way of knowing.
Adam Curry:
And now they stole the conference call between the Scotland Yard and the F.B.I., and I have twenty (20) second clip that-
Adam Curry:
show[s] you what great work is being done here. The whole thing is so idiotically stupid and such a dumb P.R. stunt. Are these guys going after hackers? Yeah. How? Listen.
Clip (Scotland Yard Agent):
Prosecution council making an application in chambers, i.e. without defense knowing, to seek a way to try and uh, factor some time in so it won't look suspicious.
Clip (F.B.I. Agent):
Ok. How much time do you think is reasonable that they'll be able
Clip (Scotland Yard Agent):
I gone and said eight (8) weeks. We have
Clip (Scotland Yard Agent):
I've gone and said eight (8) weeks. Got Ryan Cleary's indecent images, which has been found partly by our guys and partly by the U.S.A.F. uh, team, who looked at his hard drive. What we're gonna propose is they get dealt with first.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, because that's all you DO. Hey, you got porn? Aw, we're gonna arrest you. But it was "indecent images."
This is ridiculous! [Burp] Excuse me.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh.
Adam Curry:
Tomato.
SFX:
[Ding ding ding ding!]
Adam Curry:
This just complete-
John C. Dvorak:
Doctor! We have a sick man, here!
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] But do you know what I mean? It's like this is completely ridiculous the way they're setting this up and the BBC, I gotta play you the intro to this piece. They have a whole piece on "The Dark Web, The Dark Web, The Dark Web is where all the evil, anonymous people live, but not just anonymous, it could be your neighbor, on The Dark Web, listen to this intro.
Clip:
The Internet is transforming our lives. There is little dispute about that, but do we know enough about the dark side of the web?
Adam Curry:
Dark, dark
Clip:
A world where criminals can't be traced-
Adam Curry:
Criminals
Clip:
where you can shop for illegal goods and where customers go by codenames.
Adam Curry:
Ooooh!
Clip:
Our reporter, Adrian Goldberg, set out to "shine a light" in the Internet shadows to discover just what you can buy on the online black market.
Adam Curry:
Oh, the dark web, and this piece, I don't even want to play it.
Adam Curry:
The Dark Web is used like twenty times in this piece. Have you seen this thing?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
You want to hear it?
John C. Dvorak:
I've heard about it but I haven't seen it, no.
Adam Curry:
You interested?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, play a little bit.
Clip (Speaker 1):
Millions of shoppers have abandoned the high street in favour of online shopping. But just like in the real world, alongside the everyday goods available on the internet, an online black market has also sprung up.
Adam Curry:
Black market
Clip (Speaker 1):
Getting on the dark web isn't straight forward. Sites where class A drugs are sold,
Clip (Speaker 1):
Are beyond the reach of normal search engines.
Adam Curry:
Bohhh
Clip (Speaker 1):
Instead, users download sophisticated b
Adam Curry:
What kind of bull crap is that? "Beyond the reach of online search engines?" What-- what is that bull shit?
Clip (Speaker 1):
readily available software which makes the location of their computer and the sites they've visited virtually impossible to trace.
Adam Curry:
You're very bad if you can't be traced.
Clip (Speaker 2):
By buying a virtual currency like bitcoins, innocently used by gamers and others
Adam Curry:
Who still uses bitcoin?
John C. Dvorak:
They're out of business.
Adam Curry:
Th-this is like total, chatroom, raise your hand.
John C. Dvorak:
Is this a real old, ah, production you're listening to?
Adam Curry:
Brand new.
John C. Dvorak:
Is it some old thing from last year?
Adam Curry:
Brand new. Brand new! That's why -- it's propaganda!
Clip (Speaker 2):
internet. The first layer of secrecy is introduced. Bitcoin transactions aren't linked to names, allowing people to buy and sell without being identified. Using the downloaded software, we found sites where class A drugs,
Clip (Speaker 2):
fake driving licenses, and even guns were on sale.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, stuff you can get anywhere. But it's the dark web! The dark web! [spookily] Very dark.
Clip (Speaker 2):
We paid in bitcoins for what was advertised as DMT.
Adam Curry:
Give me that address.
John C. Dvorak:
[Chuckles]
Clip (Speaker 2):
An illegal, hallucinogenic class A drug.
Clip:
[Lab noises.]
Clip (Speaker 2):
When they were tested in the lab, the drugs were found to be genuine. The dark web uses software that anonymizes users by bouncing communications
Clip (Speaker 2):
between a network of volunteers around the world. This makes tracing sites you've visited, or the location of your computer almost impossible.
Adam Curry:
Now, this is very important because, you know, while everyone's, well of course, the SOPA PIPA OPEN thing is now passed, and everyone, you know, their, everyone's Twitter icon is back to normal, Facebook pages are back, Wikipedia no longer black, everything's all good and hunky d-, we won! WoOoO! Yeah!
Meanwhile, what's happening.
Here is the Bureau of Justice Assistance who sent out a document.
Adam Curry:
This is a part of the Federal Bureau of Investigations. If you run an internet cafe or if you are in an internet cafe, the Joint Regional Intelligence Center, ah, by the way, you can call them you just have to mention codeword "tripwire", it says it right here on the document, this is how f-- nuts, insane, these people are. Like, "Hey man, I'm gonna go rat on this guy because, you know, I gotta call this number, and call, mention "tripwire"."
Umm.
Adam Curry:
"You need to consider people suspicious in the following cases. People who: one, are overly concerned about privacy, and make attempts to shield the screen from view of others!"
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, like when I'm, I'm trying to access my banking account or something.
"Be suspicious of people who pay cash or use credit cards in different names."
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
"Be suspicious of people who apparently use tradecraft. Lookout, blocker, or someone else to distract employees."
Adam Curry:
"Suspicious people act nervous or exert suspicious behavior inconsistent with activities."
Like if you have Tourette Syndrome.
"People are suspicious who are observed switching SIM cards in cell phones or use multiple cell phones."
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Which is about every single executive in New York City. Because they've got the Blackberry and their iPhone. And.
"Be suspicious of people who travel illogical distances to use internet cafes."
Maybe because they have no internet.
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
"Activities on computer are suspicious if they indicate residential based internet provider. Signs onto Comcast, AOL, etcetera. Uses anonymizers, portals or other means to shield IP address. Suspicious or coded writings."
Like "in the morning", "hey citizen."
"Use of code word sheets, cryptic ledgers, etcetera."
I mean, this is the stuff we're -- be an SS Nazi and spy on people and if they switch their SIM card,
Adam Curry:
Call eight eight eight seven oh five J-R-I-C (888-705-JRIC) and mention the code word, "tripwire."
And what's happening in Gitmo Nation East? Well here's how they're going to do it with the Olympics. Because it's going to be so busy, this is the Homeland Department, it's going to be so crazy busy with people on the internet, ISPs may introduce data caps during peak times to try and spread the load, or loading, actually they say,
Adam Curry:
"and give a more equal service to their entire customer base. It is possible that internet services may be slower during the games. ISPs have been engaged in the planning process so demands of the system can be understood and managed."
Here's what's gonna happen: no internet for you! And when the Olympics go away, it's gonna be the same thing. This is all a trick.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry:
The only thing-- the cell networks by the way, are gonna be fine. No problem. It's the internet that's gonna be slow.
Adam Curry:
So everyone's distracted and happily on their way now, "Oh, we defeat them. Ehh. No SOPA. Not gonna happen."
And meanwhile this is taking place right out in clear, in plain view. Also there's HR nineteen eighty one [1981]. "Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of Two Thousand Eleven [2011]"
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, that'll be loaded with stuff.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, well it's not--
John C. Dvorak:
You can't go wrong. This is the way to pass -- all the bills that ever get passed from now on should be anti-child porn laws. And then you could put anything you want in there because nobody's going to say diddly about it.
Adam Curry:
Status.
Adam Curry:
"This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it to be considered by the house as a whole. Explanation. Although it has been placed on a calendar of business, the order in which legislation is considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership. Keep in mind that sometimes the text in one bill is incorporated into another bill and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here but doesn't, would seem to be abandoned."
There's no text. You can't read it yet.
John C. Dvorak:
Hm.
Adam Curry:
Time to turn my twitter icon black.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm sure when it comes out you'll be reading it.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, of course. Turn your icon black, it's time.
Woo! Icon black. Icon black.
John C. Dvorak:
[Sigh] Icon black.
Adam Curry:
[Sigh] Icon black.
John C. Dvorak:
I think we should have puce.
Adam Curry:
Make my icon black.
Puce?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Puce, should be the color, the next, ah--
Adam Curry:
What is puce?
John C. Dvorak:
--revolution.
Adam Curry:
What color is puce?
John C. Dvorak:
Type in puce, and ah--
Adam Curry:
I don't even know how to spell puce.
John C. Dvorak:
[Sigh] p-u-i-s-s-e, I think.
John C. Dvorak:
It's a good question.
Adam Curry:
Oh. Well that's why I brought it up.
John C. Dvorak:
Type in puce and hit images. P-u-i-s-s-e, is that it?
Adam Curry:
So, um, let me see. You, um, well we can do that in a second.
I caught something. While were on this topic. So ACTA was ratified. The Anti Copyright Trademark Act, whatever it is. The thing that, ah, the President wouldn't tell us about because there would be such an outrage. It was passed by the European Union.
Adam Curry:
And, ah, there are actual riots going, well protests, let's put it that way, in Poland, Slovenia, and other places in Euroland, about this act being passed. And I'm like, why is such a big deal being made of this, and then I realized, it's conditioning for the collapse of the Euro. And if you listen to this report, I will not spoil it, you tell me if you can hear it.
Clip:
[Protest noises]
Clip (Speaker 1):
Protesters gathered in the Slovenian capital on Saturday to demonstrate against an international treaty meant to protect intellectual property on the internet. The protesters in Ljubljana are angry that Slovenia signed the Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, or ACTA, in Tokyo last week. There were also demonstrations in Greece and Poland, with many fearing ACTA will lead to internet censorship.
Clip (Speaker 2):
[Male voice]
Where it may count for example, is, they don't have freedom for speech, internet, news, nothing,
Clip (Speaker 2):
and we can see the consequences. So in long term, I think it can happen anywhere.
Clip:
[Traffic noises]
Clip (Speaker 1):
Expressing its support for the anti-ACTA movement, hacker group Anonymous claimed responsibility for disrupting Slovenia's largest bank. NLB's website was down for most of the day, causing problems for customers trying to withdraw money from ATMs.
John C. Dvorak:
Hm.
Adam Curry:
That is the propaganda. They show a shot of an ATM that says not available. It didn't say, it didn't have like, "Anonymous" with a little nice song playing.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
This is bull crap. That's a setup.
John C. Dvorak:
It sounds like it. Yup, yup.
Adam Curry:
It's like, oh, when there's no money coming out of the ATM, blame it on Anonymous. Instead of your bank being bankrupt, just blame it on Anonymous. That's all good.
John C. Dvorak:
That's not a bad strategy.
Adam Curry:
Well the strategy used to be the bank holiday idea, right? Where, um, 'oh, we'll collapse everything in a bank holiday.' Now I think its, they're gonna, things are going to start collapsing and then any bank can just say,
Adam Curry:
"oh, it's Anonymous, man. They hacked into us and we'll be offline for a while."
John C. Dvorak:
[Chuckle]
Adam Curry:
Yeah, yeah. Well. You're laughing. But I'm not laughing.
John C. Dvorak:
I know. I think it's exactly, I think you spotted an actual trend. You know, it's blame Anonymous for everything.
Adam Curry:
It's the meme.
John C. Dvorak:
And then put that little picture of the guy -- the big news of course was they hacked into some, ooh, so secret conference call between the FBI and Scotland
Adam Curry:
That's what I...
John C. Dvorak:
-- did you listen,
John C. Dvorak:
as J.C., Buzzkill Junior, mentioned. [He] says, this sounds like any crappy conference call that ever existed in the history of business-to-business conference calls. A bunch of guys shootin' the shit about, 'hey, so how 'ya doin? Oh I dunno. We're gonna have a meeting tomorrow. Aw, I think those guys are screwy.' You know, I mean, it's just a bunch of nothing.
Adam Curry:
You were here this morning when I played that clip, right? From the conference call?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
That was the clip about the porn. That I just played for you like five [5] minutes ago
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, then I was..five [5] minutes ago?
Adam Curry:
Yeah.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh, well, obviously I didn't hear that part of the clip as I listened to that.
Jingle:
hey citizen
John C. Dvorak:
When I listened to the tape, I'm telling you, I was so bored after about two [2] minutes, I never listened to much more of it
Adam Curry:
Yeah
John C. Dvorak:
So there was substance in there?
Adam Curry:
[laughing] That was it. We got the guy's porn. [laughs] That was it. That was the whole bit.
John C. Dvorak:
That was it?
Adam Curry:
That was it!
John C. Dvorak:
The thing went on for like, an hour!
Adam Curry:
That was the only substance in it.
John C. Dvorak:
Something about Sheffield being a hell hole
Adam Curry:
Yeah, and then like, [gravely voice] 'hey man, we got the guy's porn. Ok, good, we'll take him down'
John C. Dvorak:
That's it?
Adam Curry:
Yeah. I'm sorry, indecent images.
John C. Dvorak:
So let's switch to real news
Adam Curry:
Oh! Well, hey let's, I'm all for that.
Jingle:
and now back to real news
John C. Dvorak:
So, your favorite company, MTV, had their European Music Awards.
Adam Curry:
How did? Oh yeah, there must be an invitation here somewhere..
John C. Dvorak:
In Belfast. And all the guest stars, all the acts and all the award winners were not only all from America
Adam Curry:
Wait, was Bono there?
John C. Dvorak:
No.
Adam Curry:
Oh, good.
John C. Dvorak:
That's because all of them also, coincidentally
John C. Dvorak:
work for Viacom, in one form or another.
Adam Curry:
[chuckles] Really?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it was really bad. So, they have as their first like guest presenters..and you have to listen to the crazy thing that this one of the two..you're going to be surprised..the first guest presenters that really bring it home. They have Selena Gomez as the hostess and she announces the first presenters. And this is like to bring it home to the Europeans how important this whole award thing is to Europe.
John C. Dvorak:
And here we go:
csg:
[audience cheering] This is your show. So many of you around the world have voted for your favorite acts to win one of these awards. So, let's bring out your first two [2] presenters. They come all the way to Northern Ireland's eastern shore from the Jersey shore, here to present the award for best live, are the always lovely, Snookie and J-Wow.
Clip:
What's up Belfast? [spoken together] It's Jersey Shore's in the house!
Clip:
[crowd cheering] Yeah! The single most magical experience at being at a live music is, it can't be recreated!
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] We're going to die!
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter] 'The single most important thing about being at a live music, is that it can't recreated.'
Adam Curry:
[laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
What does that even mean?!
Adam Curry:
Let's, let's just listen to that. Was that Snookie?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Clip:
The single most magical experience at being at a live music is, it can't be recreated!
Adam Curry:
[laughter] I bet there are people in Europe who watch going, "Could you, please just drone me now? I mean,"
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
"I'd rather have a drone kill me with a Hellfire missile, then have to watch that!" And, and the crowd goes wild!
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle] Yeah.
Adam Curry:
We're so, we're so doomed.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughter]
Adam Curry:
We're so doomed.
John C. Dvorak:
I'm surprised you missed it.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] Well, I was tracking, a lot of people sent me this. And I was tracking this. Of course, the, the Chief Executive Officer of Micron, Steve Appleton in a plane crash. In uh, Boise Idaho. And um, whether there's a plane crash these days, everyone's like, "Two to the head! Two to the head!" I'm like, "It's not always Two to the Head.
John C. Dvorak:
[chuckle] Yeah. There are actual plane crashes. They aren't Two to the Head.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, there are actual plane crashes.
Adam Curry:
Uh, the thing that is kind of interesting though, is that the stock jumped up three percent [3%]. [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's a bad sign.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, that's not good. And within hours of this news, they announced Mark Adams. I'm sorry uh, Mark Durcan. Am I saying this right? Uh...
John C. Dvorak:
It sounds right. I wouldn't-
Adam Curry:
No, Mark Adams was going to be- but in hours they replace the guy. Within hours! Which is a little insensitive.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Well so, I'm looking at this and I'm seeing, remember Greenhill? That's the company that uh, advised uh, what is it? Uh, didn't they advise on Solyndra? And the, and the two [2] bankers from the, from the Greenhill & Company? They died in a plane crash.
John C. Dvorak:
Maybe.
Adam Curry:
Here's the report: "Greenhill & Co.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah. Right. That was a plane crash.
Adam Curry:
Yeah. They uh, their number are up forty-two percent [42%] since those guys died. It's kind of interesting,
Adam Curry:
the correlation between uh, the important people at a company dying, and their stock price improving. And, I do not put it, and I do not put it passed ANYone, uh in the financial world to kill anyone for any, for any menial reason.
John C. Dvorak:
Not when billions are becoming involved. And people are becoming overnight billionaires. We're not talking about the olden days, when some of us was like, a millionaire overnight. We're talking about enorm- obscene amounts of money.
Adam Curry:
Yes, so they'll kill anyone for any reason. Now,
John C. Dvorak:
There, obscene, there's a good reason: Obscene amounts of money.
Adam Curry:
That's the reason right there.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
So the Appleton thing; uh, what most people heard on the news, and I uh, I'm a pilot and airman. I like uh, looking into this, Uh, is the audio, of course. Which uh, was recorded of the, of uh, the crash. And here's, here's the uh, situation is, Appleton took off in his Lancair, which, of course is labelled, "Experimental aircraft! Crazy fu- he should be, what is he John Denver? Reh!"
Adam Curry:
Lancair is, is quite an outstanding aircraft. It is uh, it is a hot rod. It was a pressurized version. It can go up to thirty thousand feet [30,000 ft], does over three hundred knots [300 kt]. I mean it's an amazing aircraft. I've flown 'em. Um it is labelled experimental, because it essentially is a kit air plane, but it is not like, you know, Steve Appleton in his garage, gluing this thing together. And there is a certification process, but it is labelled experimental for a lot of technical reasons. Which doesn't mean, it's necessarily safe, or unsafe.
Adam Curry:
But please, please don't be fooled into thinking, "uh, oh you know, it's just some crazy, you know," like some - remember when we used to make model airplanes, and we'd dope the wings? Remember that? You put, like put paper over the frame, and like paste dope on it? That's what is was called dope.
John C. Dvorak:
It was, it was a paint.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, but it can called "dope." You have to like, dope the wings and it would toughen up.
John C. Dvorak:
And they smelt great!
Adam Curry:
[laughter] Yeah, exactly. So he takes off, he probably reaches an altitude of about two hundred feet [200 ft],
Adam Curry:
And, well I'll play the clip for you, then I'll give you my assessment. But then I'll play the other clip, which you probably didn't hear.
Clip (Air Traffic Control):
Hey 51, on runway to your right around the point.
Clip (Steve Appleton):
It's 51, I would like to run back in. And uh, land. Coming back in. Uh three [cut off]
Clip (Air Traffic Control):
[audio cutting in and out]
Clip (Speaker 1):
51, cancel take off turn.
Clip (Air Traffic Control):
Alright, cancel take of turn.
Adam Curry:
Okay. So, what happened there is uh, and I cut the [clears throat] the take off clearance that he received. [clears throat] but I calculated the time from uh, his take off clearance to when he made that call. And uh, he couldn't have been any more two-, three hundred feet [200 - 300 ft] in altitude. Here's, if he had an engine failure, which I believe he had, he made a horrible mistake. If you have an engine failure, you, on take off, you learn, you're going down straight ahead.
Adam Curry:
Do NOT, under any circumstances, do NOT try to turn back and make it to the airport. This is like, it's like Rule #1! Do NOT turn back. You are going to land straight ahead. Wherever you're going to land, hopefully there's a field. Hopefully, there's some room, but if you make a turn you're going to lose too much altitude, and you will die, which is what happened. I will also point out, Steve Appleton crashed previously, and, you know, punctured his lung, he wrecked his liver, um in a stunt plane. He's an excellent pilot.
Adam Curry:
But a bit of hubris, I think he over estimated what he could do in his Lancair. SO he had a crash in two-thousand, seven [2007]. What you didn't hear, he already has aborted a take off, before this fateful event. Here's the audio of that.
Clip (Steve Appleton):
I want to [inaudible] going to land here. We got, we got a problem. Thanks
Clip (Air Traffic Control):
[inaudible] Delta, do you need any assistance?
Clip (Steve Appleton):
Negative. I'm going to back-to-back [static]
Clip (Air Traffic Control):
Alright, Delta Charlie, turn right when you contact ground.
Clip (Steve Appleton):
[Static]
Adam Curry:
So he had taken off previously, he noticed a problem, when to back to the airport, requested landing. He said, "I'm going to land. I got a problem." Said, "I'll take care of it," went back to his hangar, and whatever he was supposed to take care of, he didn't. Could this be sabotage? Extremely possible, but if he had a problem, I think this guy was just a hot dog. And he was like, "You know, I can fly with this."
Adam Curry:
"Whatever, maybe just the light is flickering, or whatever. But you'll not hear that. All you will hear is the discredit of general aviation in general. However, in light of all this analysis, I uh, told Miss Micky,
John C. Dvorak:
[Chuckle]
Adam Curry:
I will never again, go on a scheduled flight in a small aircraft. If I'm just going to show up somewhere and just fly, that's okay because I do believe that this is being used by increasing uh, frequency to kill people.
Adam Curry:
And uh, as you pointed out, John, billions of dollars are at stake. So, this guy maybe had something seriously wrong.
John C. Dvorak:
Well in your case, I don't see that, but this other guy, yes.
Adam Curry:
Well it depends on ahh... yeah, you're right. No one gives a crap about me.
John C. Dvorak:
Yet!
Adam Curry:
Yeah. You are probably right. Anyway, so the only thing that's ..
John C. Dvorak:
But they might just do it to make an example out of ya.
Adam Curry:
Yeah? Well the thing that is disturbing
Adam Curry:
the stock goes up and profits go up and profits go up and ..
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, I know there's something fishy when that happens.
Adam Curry:
Well, not fishy. It's ..
John C. Dvorak:
Generally speaking when the CEO.. when something bad happens to the CEO the stock does NOT go UP.
Adam Curry:
No. And all I've got left is the Euorzone. While everyone here in the United States of Gitmo Nation Will be distracted, I think we're probably going to see, I'm going to guess eighty (80) million people will watch the Super Bowl.
Adam Curry:
That's going to be my estimate.
John C. Dvorak:
Hmm, what's the number on that- I've sent you a link to this website that has all the stupid bets you can make. Um,
Adam Curry:
When did you send this>
John C. Dvorak:
I sent it after I sent the clips.
Adam Curry:
Oh.
John C. Dvorak:
Scroll down is, is just the the subject line.
Adam Curry:
Got it.
John C. Dvorak:
And if you start looking at these bets. These are bets that include, and the odds for these bets, include: What color the Gatorade be that they dump on the winning coach. You can actually on that; which seems like the easiest bet to rig.
Adam Curry:
So, is one of the bets is uh,
Adam Curry:
how many people will watch?
John C. Dvorak:
There is a bet, I think there is an over and under on the number of people viewing um, and I think it's .. The problem is there are so many of these bets. Total receptions, who threw the first touchdown, blah, blah, blah. Half-time bets, you know, odds to win MVP ..
Adam Curry:
Here we go over one hundred and seventeen (117) million viewers... uh is minus one-fifty [150], under one-hundred, and seventeen million viewers [117,000,000], plus one-ten [110].
John C. Dvorak:
So that the over-and-under. And, generally speaking, these sorts of, these bets, the odds makers nail it! So eighty [80,000,000 is way low!
Adam Curry:
A hundred, and- I'm sticking with eighty [80,000,000]. Um, and the Giants will win. But that's okay, we can disagree on that. But while that's happening,
John C. Dvorak:
Wait a minute.
ac' [chuckle]
John C. Dvorak:
Since you put this out
Adam Curry:
Who gives a crap?! I don't give a shit!
John C. Dvorak:
Put it in the book.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, put it in the book. I don't give a crap, because what's going to be happening is:
Jingle:
Eurozone theme
Adam Curry:
Greece has their fi- this is the deadline. Today is the final, final, FINAL, final, final deadline. We already had a couple of, "This is your last chance now." This is the final, final, final final. Depending on what happens today, will determine whether Papademos will tender his resignation tomorrow.
John C. Dvorak:
I thought he was already bailing out.
Adam Curry:
No, he will tender his resignation tomorrow, if they don't make it happen.
Adam Curry:
What is it all about? Of course, they need the hundred, and thirty billion [130,000,000,000] Euro uh, extra bail-out. They have not signed the paperwork. The reason why; this will blow you away, man. The reason why is they want to, the, [clears throat] What is- they want a twenty-five percent [25%] cut in minimum wage.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, that's a classic.
Adam Curry:
Do you know that the minimum wage is?
John C. Dvorak:
In Greece?
Adam Curry:
Yeah, the gross. The gross minimum wage. So, before taxes.
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, tell me.
Adam Curry:
seven hundred, and fifty [750] Euros a month. So take home is like, three seventy-five [350 Euros]?
John C. Dvorak:
Three dollars and seventy-five cents [$3.75]?
Adam Curry:
Three hundred and seventy-five [375] Euros, uh a month?
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah.
Adam Curry:
Well, not wonder people are pissed off. And they, and they want to cut that?!
John C. Dvorak:
Well, I'm looking at the, I'm looking at minimum wage; Greece public data,
John C. Dvorak:
and that number that you're giving us has increased to eight hundred (800) something a month, so I think you are off on this one.
Adam Curry:
Well .. I'm ... okay. What I'm reading here the minimum wage seven-hundred, fifty-one (€750) Euro a month.
John C. Dvorak:
What are you reading from?
Adam Curry:
Let me see what this is. I think this is Reuters. Hold on.. But okay seven-fifty (750) or eight hundred (800).. I mean ...
John C. Dvorak:
It's eight-seventy-six (876) as of July. So WHY would they be giving a bogus number that's so far off?
John C. Dvorak:
And that's Euros.
Adam Curry:
Interesting, I don't know why they're giving a bogus- What uh, where are you getting this from?
John C. Dvorak:
Google.com/publicdata
Adam Curry:
Oh, oh. So it's from Google, of course.
John C. Dvorak:
No, seriously. I'm looking around and it's all over the map. The minimum wage in Greece was [inhales] five hundred, fifty-nine dollars [$559, probably meant Euros] back in two-thousand, five [2005]
Adam Curry:
Here, I see from the WIKIPEDIA, seven-hundred, and fifty-one Euros, and thirty-nine [751.39 Euros/month].
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, but that is not from the latest months. I mean, Google has a chart going up and up and up every month.
Adam Curry:
Yeah, they're source is Euro Stat!
John C. Dvorak:
Okay.
Adam Curry:
So, who are you going to believe here, dude?
John C. Dvorak:
Euro Stat or Wikipedia?
Adam Curry:
Heh. I think the people who are actually writing Wikipedia are probably entering the correct amount.
John C. Dvorak:
It could be Clinton's folks, for all you know.
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] It's not a lot of money, let's put it that way. But to cut it by a quarter! Twenty-five percent [25%]!
Adam Curry:
Yeah NO KIDDING! So the Troika [Russian; 3-of-a-kind] is all over this, and if it doesn't happen then it could be all over. And I have now .. you've turned me into a NUT JOB. I've been tracking this Baltic Dry Index. You are freaking me out, man.
John C. Dvorak:
[laughs]
Adam Curry:
This is a FREAK OUT!
John C. Dvorak:
I told ya!
Adam Curry:
Yeah, I don't think we explained that properly on the last show because even after the show you and I spoke for a few minutes and you were like, [Gruffy old man voice] "Look at this thing!"
Adam Curry:
So, it was like sixteen thousand [16,000]?
John C. Dvorak:
I think twelve thousand [12,000], eleven thousand [11,000], or something like that.
Adam Curry:
Right. Now it's six-hun- it's under six-hundred.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah, it's over- like a twenty-to-1 [20:1] drop.
Adam Curry:
And what this does is represents the movement of uh, commodities around the world. Is that a fair assessment?
John C. Dvorak:
Yes, and reflects movement of food stuff, uh raw material, coal, coke, steel, uh, uh, unprocessed steel, scrap,
John C. Dvorak:
scrap metal, I think another one...
Adam Curry:
I think the coke is moving just fine, I don't think that's the problem.
John C. Dvorak:
[scoff] And uh, rice and
SFX:
Squirrel!
John C. Dvorak:
and meat
SFX:
Ding!
Adam Curry:
Sorry.
John C. Dvorak:
and uh, I would assume, petroleum too. And uh, yeah it's down to nothing. I mean there's, there's a bunch of variables you have to consider, and which is for example, well they felt that uh, the flooding in Australia in the coal-mining areas. So, the coke wasn't going to be exported from Australia. That was accounting for some of it, and the, because of that big boom that took place in two-thousand, seven [2007], two-thousand, eight [2008].
John C. Dvorak:
The- a whole bunch of new ships were built, so there's too much capacity, and not enough, uh product, but it seems to me that that thing pretty well marks the way the stock market goes, except recently. And recently the stock market's going up, and that thing's down. And that thing is a- like a thirty [30]-day leading indicator. So the stock market should collapse, in between now and uh, middle of uh, March.
Adam Curry:
Did you bring this up with Horowitz [clears throat] on the show?
John C. Dvorak:
Well, we'll do it on Tuesday.
Adam Curry:
Well you might want to do the show on Monday and this whole thing could come apart before then. [Laughs] It's going so fast. But if you look at it, the last time... it's now going below the [year] 2008 numbers. Did that happen BEFORE or AFTER the Lehman collapse? When the Baltic Dry Index went down?
John C. Dvorak:
I don't know. I mean all I know is that when it went down it was four (4) weeks later that the stock market collapsed and the housing crisis came to the floor and the whole economy went in the toilet. Took four (4) weeks!
Adam Curry:
Wow. Yes, it's, it's a scary index. It's just scary. Wow.
John C. Dvorak:
So anyway, while everyone's jumping for joy going over this great unemployment number, I think they should be looking at this instead.
Adam Curry:
Anyway, you- [chuckle] Except for the one million [1,000,000] people who don't count any more. "Hey, citizen. You don't count any more. Get out of my way, you non-human resource!" You got another clip you want to play us out this, or what do you got?
John C. Dvorak:
Uh, well...
Adam Curry:
What, well what are we doing? We're way over time here, man. We're like running really late.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah we had uh, we are this show just ends when it ends.
Adam Curry:
Well, okay. Let me uh, end on this note. We know as a fact, it is a fact.
John C. Dvorak:
FACT!
Adam Curry:
[Chuckle] It is a fact that uh, the French do not support this show.
John C. Dvorak:
Oh yeah.
Adam Curry:
We have one [1] guy.
John C. Dvorak:
The French, no the French hate anything American. Yeah, he have one [1] guy, and he's not in France!
Adam Curry:
[chuckle] But the French do not support this show.
And what comes around, goes around, my friends. [Adam speaks in French] "Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France" announced yesterday every car in France will now be mandated to be equipped with a breathalyzer starting in the Spring of 2012. Your car will not start unless you BLOW it.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah one guy and he's not in France.
Adam Curry:
[laughs] But the French do not support this show.
Adam Curry:
You're car will not start, unless you blow it. Law. How about that?
John C. Dvorak:
I would be surprised that the French put up with this crap.
Adam Curry:
Well, just goes to show, they're all asleep. They're like, [French accent] "Yes, Jean-Claude I think it is a very good idea for my President "Missiette" Sarkozy-Napoleon. So we do, we are four thousand [4000] uh, deaths per year. Here is saving people. So, blow my car, save a human resource. This is very, very good.
John C. Dvorak:
It won't work
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] What do you mean it won't .. well it won't ..
John C. Dvorak:
I mean there's too many glitches in a system like that. I mean, you'll be sober as a judge and you'll blow into it and it'll say you're drunk. I mean you can just see this kind of thing happening. You'll be in an emergency! A bunch of guys are coming at you with knives and guns and they are shooting in the air! You're freaked out!
Adam Curry:
[Tells a French interjection]
Your adrenaline is pumping!
Adam Curry:
You jump in your car, you grab the keys! Then you gotta, "Please blow ..
SFX:
[Horn]
John C. Dvorak:
" ... into the thing."
Adam Curry:
[laughing and speaking in French] What is BLOW in French? [Laughing] Give me Google Translate. That you, Google. This is the only thing I like Google for it their maps and translate. Hold on a second. Hold on. Where's the translate? Uh ... translate ...
John C. Dvorak:
I think I would look up the word exhale.
Adam Curry:
Please ... No! It's funnier when you say blow! [Typing] Please blow the car ..
Adam Curry:
And I am translating from French .. err from English to French. Hey! I can only translate to
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah you can.
Adam Curry:
.. Spanish or Arabic? What is THAT?!
John C. Dvorak:
You got it set up wrong.
Adam Curry:
Ahh hold on ..
John C. Dvorak:
What are you doing with Arabic on your machines preset??!
Adam Curry:
[loudly] [unknown French statement spoken] No, that... No, please blow the CAR ...[loudy] "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture!" [Robot voice] "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Adam Curry:
Wait! Wait-wait-wait!
SFX:
Google translate voice-bot saying, "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Adam Curry:
There we go! [maniacal laughter] Okay! Here is the scenario ONE MORE TIME!
[yelling] "There's guys running after you, John! What are you gonna do??"
John C. Dvorak:
[Loudly] "I'm going to run for the car as fast as I can! I'm going to JUMP IN! Grab the keys! Put them in the ignition! And THEN ... !
SFX:
Google translate voice-bot saying, "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Adam Curry:
[audible clap and laughter]
John C. Dvorak:
I'm shot! Shot dead in my seat.
Adam Curry:
[still laughing]
SFX:
Two To The Head [sound of gun firing two bullets]
Adam Curry:
This concludes this weeks broadcast of Playtime at Radio
Adam Curry:
I'm telling you. S'il vous plaît so-too-- sauter la voiture.
John C. Dvorak:
Yeah. Copy that and make it a regular.
SFX:
Adam Curry and Google translate voice bot both saying, "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Adam Curry:
Can we do different voices or is that all we got?
John C. Dvorak:
I think that's it. I think we'd better quit while we're ahead.
Adam Curry:
I think that's a good idea.
SFX:
Google translate voice bot saying, "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Adam Curry:
[Laughs] Remember, blowing your car gets you places.
Adam Curry:
Alright everybody!
So, enjoy what you are going to do on the rest of your Sunday. And for those of you, and MOST of you actually, listen to the program while you are in transit, I hope we were able to entertain you and got you to your destination in one piece and with a SMILE on your face! And BE HAPPY you are not in France, cause you'd have to blow your car to get anywhere..... and if you see any value, support us! Go to dvorak dot org slash N A (dvorak.org/na),
Adam Curry:
No Agenda Nation dot com [noagendanation.com] or channel dvorak dot com slash na [channeldvorak.com/na] and support the program.
Show notes! three-eight-zero (380) dot na show notes dot com [380.nashownotes.com] coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star state! In The Morning everybody! My name's Adam Curry.
John C. Dvorak:
And from Northern Silicon Valley where the motto is, "I tweet, therefore I am." I'm John C Dvorak.
Adam Curry:
We'll be back again on Thursday! Right here on No Agenda!
[background music begins to slow]
Jingle:
Closing theme
SFX:
Google translate voice-bot saying, "S'il vous plaît sauter la voiture."
Jingle:
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